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coltrane

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prednisone
« on: May 12, 2008, 08:49:58 AM »
guys, i just got put on prednisone for poison ivy..


will it have any effect of bodybuilding at all?  maybe increase appetite?

thanks fellas

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2008, 09:02:54 AM »
I'm curious if you notice an acute boost in energy. I hear some athletes take corticosteroids a few days before a competition, even some power athletes. Supposed to give a 'kick' and loosen tight muscles.

In the long run it would be negative I'm sure.

A powerlifter at the gym was put on cortisone for allergies and he hit PR's the week he started it.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2008, 09:06:22 AM »
guys, i just got put on prednisone for poison ivy..


will it have any effect of bodybuilding at all?  maybe increase appetite?

thanks fellas
I believe it may lower your immune system.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2008, 09:18:57 AM »
thanks guys..

i'm only on it for 7 days, but i was just wondering if i'd have any effect ...i'm natty but wondering.

i do chest tonight...i'll keep you posted if i feel any increased energy

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2008, 09:36:30 AM »
It makes me feel like shit & it makes me bloated.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2008, 10:55:52 AM »
It makes me feel like shit & it makes me bloated.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2008, 10:57:06 AM »
I'm curious if you notice an acute boost in energy. I hear some athletes take corticosteroids a few days before a competition, even some power athletes. Supposed to give a 'kick' and loosen tight muscles.

In the long run it would be negative I'm sure.

A powerlifter at the gym was put on cortisone for allergies and he hit PR's the week he started it.

Its a corticosteroid, so long term effects will be negative.   That said, I've heard stories of powerlifters doing exactly what you posted above.   The only thing that makes sense to me is that its because of the antiinflammatory effects---their joints don't hurt and they push a bit harder.  The real problem is corticosteroid use will have detrimental effects on connective tissue--its good, but its also bad.  If you are on it long term and push maximal weights, I think your risk of major connective tissue injury will be increased.  

The stimulatory effects are very individual (i've seen this in my patients too).  I have an aunt who has severe asthasma (she's also about 350 lbs at 5'2 with both knees trashed).  When she is on pred for her asthasma, she literally bounces off the walls.  She's running around like she's half her age and a third her weight with virtually no joint problems.   She'll run on 2-4 hours of sleep a night once the pred kicks in  for about 7-10 days and then she crashes.  

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2008, 10:57:46 AM »
It makes me feel like shit & it makes me bloated.

Yup, thats how I feel on it.  My blood sugars also go absolutely haywire. 

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 12:35:37 PM »
Its a corticosteroid, so long term effects will be negative.   That said, I've heard stories of powerlifters doing exactly what you posted above.   The only thing that makes sense to me is that its because of the antiinflammatory effects---their joints don't hurt and they push a bit harder.  The real problem is corticosteroid use will have detrimental effects on connective tissue--its good, but its also bad.  If you are on it long term and push maximal weights, I think your risk of major connective tissue injury will be increased. 

The stimulatory effects are very individual (i've seen this in my patients too).  I have an aunt who has severe asthasma (she's also about 350 lbs at 5'2 with both knees trashed).  When she is on pred for her asthasma, she literally bounces off the walls.  She's running around like she's half her age and a third her weight with virtually no joint problems.   She'll run on 2-4 hours of sleep a night once the pred kicks in  for about 7-10 days and then she crashes.   

Cyclists practically live on the stuff from my understanding. One of the major drugs used in cycling. I haven't looked at the reasons for using it and how it increases cycling performance. What do you think?

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2008, 12:42:59 PM »
The stimulatory effects are very individual (i've seen this in my patients too).  I have an aunt who has severe asthasma (she's also about 350 lbs at 5'2 with both knees trashed).  When she is on pred for her asthasma, she literally bounces off the walls.  She's running around like she's half her age and a third her weight with virtually no joint problems.   She'll run on 2-4 hours of sleep a night once the pred kicks in  for about 7-10 days and then she crashes.   

I forgot about that part. Man does it make me wired.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2008, 05:54:30 PM »
Prednisone is not anabolic at all, in fact its catabolic.  it breaks down muscle etc, inorder to increase blood glucose levels.

it does not build muscle at all!

long term sides include,,,elevated blood pressure, cataracts, diabetes, bone loss, etc...
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Re: prednisone
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2008, 07:54:15 PM »
the stuff is no good if you want to get big.  all that shit does is make you a fat ass and break down everything in your body that you need to move those irons unless you intend to stick with the pink dumbells lol

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2008, 10:20:44 AM »
well i'm only taking it for a week so i'm not too worried about it...

thanks guys for the info though...greatly appreciated.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2008, 10:23:54 AM »
well i'm only taking it for a week so i'm not too worried about it...

thanks guys for the info though...greatly appreciated.

You'll be fine taking it a week or a couple weeks. It's when it turns in months & longer that it becomes a huge problem.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 12:55:12 PM »
I have used it twice on doctors orders and it is pure POISON. I will not use it even if some doctor would insist on it. When i was given it, it was because of allergies and it made me feel like shit. i dropped a ton of weight quickly, i felt sick all the time and my resting heart rate went from 60-70 to little over 100, no joke either.
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Re: prednisone
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2008, 10:57:57 PM »
I have used it twice on doctors orders and it is pure POISON. I will not use it even if some doctor would insist on it. When i was given it, it was because of allergies and it made me feel like shit. i dropped a ton of weight quickly, i felt sick all the time and my resting heart rate went from 60-70 to little over 100, no joke either.

you sure it wasn't clen?

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2008, 12:09:22 PM »
you sure it wasn't clen?

I'm thinking the same thing.

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Re: prednisone
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 12:03:22 AM »
you sure it wasn't clen?

Yes i'm sure, i got it from the pharmacy and clen is not even used in medicine here. I have not used clen, but i have used albuterol and even that did not have those effects on me. I told my doc about those sides and he said it is not uncommon, since it is a stress hormone...
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Re: prednisone
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 10:07:30 AM »
guys, i just got put on prednisone for poison ivy..


will it have any effect of bodybuilding at all?  maybe increase appetite?

thanks fellas

Prednisone is one of the worst things you can take.

It will make you feel lethargic, and you may retain water as well as gain fat.

Unless you absolutely need to use it, I'd refrain from using it.


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