Fmr White House Press secretary - accuses Bush of using PROPAGANDA to start war

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Former white house press secretary scott mcclellan slams bush, white hosue, and media.


He accuses Bush of using PROPAGANDA to start the war.

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Mcclellan also said Rove and others misled him on the Plame case and knew all along what really happened.

Pres took permananet campaign approach to governing.

bashed him on katrina too.

Said Bush lied to everyone about iraq. 

"The country would have been better served, if the liberal media had done its job and called bush for his lies".

This is a BIG republican backfire.  This guy was paid to defend bush, and now he's being honest about what was going on behind the scenes.

[MB_722]

 

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=211280.0

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Rove responded.

He said Mcclellan "sounds like a let wing blogger".

So he refuses to address the MESSAGE (anything mcclellan said) but he
ATTACKS THE MESSENGER.

Rove, poor move, old chap.  You just legitimized what Mcclellan said.

[bigdumbbell]

wtf happened to condi rice?

[headhuntersix]

U assume that he has no agenda himself..this guy is saying what u want to hear so u assume its the truth.

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U assume that he has no agenda himself..this guy is saying what u want to hear so u assume its the truth.

he wants to sell books, sure.

But what do you think he's lying about.  You, yourself, admit that the war was about oil.  Therefore all talk of WMD was a false pre-tense for this war for oil.  When you go on Meet the Press for a month straight with scary images of mushromo clouds designed to scare populace into supporting a war you want for another purpose - isn't that propaganda, by definition?

[Victor VonDoom]

he wants to sell books, sure.

But what do you think he's lying about.  You, yourself, admit that the war was about oil.  Therefore all talk of WMD was a false pre-tense for this war for oil.  When you go on Meet the Press for a month straight with scary images of mushromo clouds designed to scare populace into supporting a war you want for another purpose - isn't that propaganda, by definition?

Didn't you vote for Bush?  Twice?  Even after you knew there were no weapons of mass destruction?  Bah!  Behold your folly!

[The Coach]

he wants to sell books, sure.

But what do you think he's lying about.  You, yourself, admit that the war was about oil.  Therefore all talk of WMD was a false pre-tense for this war for oil.  When you go on Meet the Press for a month straight with scary images of mushromo clouds designed to scare populace into supporting a war you want for another purpose - isn't that propaganda, by definition?

Don't know, but if isn't lying, then why didn't he leave earlier? Rove himself said he wasn't in any meetings (McClellen). Rob, your quick to jump on the administration but when something comes up with Obama you're quick to defend. Bottomline is you know as much as we do right now and you judge not knowing the truth.

Why do you believe McClellen? Because he wrote a book?

[The Coach]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=860306&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,358881,00.html

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Don't know, but if isn't lying, then why didn't he leave earlier? Rove himself said he wasn't in any meetings (McClellen). Rob, your quick to jump on the administration but when something comes up with Obama you're quick to defend. Bottomline is you know as much as we do right now and you judge not knowing the truth.

Why do you believe McClellen? Because he wrote a book?

joe, a court of law found scooter guilty of this crime.

I believe McC because his words happen to match that of a jury verdict.

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joe, just wait another year until all those folks who were unwittingly involved with 911 start coming fwd.

You'll keep calling them libs and liars, one after one.  Maybe someone will have a deathbed confession, maybe someone will just realized they were part of somethign bigger.

You're going to have a fun time, the next 5 years, telling getbig how all these former bush admin officials are all liars and CTers

[Camel Jockey]

Don't know, but if isn't lying, then why didn't he leave earlier? Rove himself said he wasn't in any meetings (McClellen). Rob, your quick to jump on the administration but when something comes up with Obama you're quick to defend. Bottomline is you know as much as we do right now and you judge not knowing the truth.

Why do you believe McClellen? Because he wrote a book?

What's come up with Obama? Him not wearing a flagpin? 

Douchebag.

[The Coach]

joe, a court of law found scooter guilty of this crime.

LOL...I don't think anyone was denying that. If you recall, Bush didn't exactly come to his rescue.

[The Coach]

What's come up with Obama? Him not wearing a flagpin? 

Douchebag.

You don't keep up with current affairs too well do you?

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LOL...I don't think anyone was denying that. If you recall, Bush didn't exactly come to his rescue.

Bush erased his prison sentence and commuted him.

Did you miss that memo?

You don't keep up with current affairs too well do you?

Ironic!

[shootfighter1]

I'm always skeptical when someone is promoting something or has something to sell.  May lead to exaggerations and more spicey stories.
Nonetheless, I wonder how truthful this administration was with the public pertaining to Iraq too.

[OzmO]

I'm always skeptical when someone is promoting something or has something to sell.  May lead to exaggerations and more spicey stories.
Nonetheless, I wonder how truthful this administration was with the public pertaining to Iraq too.

It's hard to ignore, considering the sales job centered around WMD's and we didn't find any.

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Don't know, but if isn't lying, then why didn't he leave earlier?

You're making an assumption that public servants resign from their jobs when they learn of a lie they're perpetuating.  You're making an assumption that public servants put their integrity before their mortgage payments.

Joe, if you found out your gym was secretly doing something illegal, would you toss your $300k annual business out the window and blow the whistle?  Or would you shut up, enjoy your check, then blow the whistle once you had moved on?

Assuming people of either party in D.C. would quit a high-profile job for their integrity is naive.

[OzmO]

You're making an assumption that public servants resign from their jobs when they learn of a lie they're perpetuating.  You're making an assumption that public servants put their integrity before their mortgage payments.

Joe, if you found out your gym was secretly doing something illegal, would you toss your $300k annual business out the window and blow the whistle?  Or would you shut up, enjoy your check, then blow the whistle once you had moved on?

Assuming people of either party in D.C. would quit a high-profile job for their integrity is naive.

Wow, common sense.  I hate that.

Like i said, all the BUSH nipple whores will do everything they can to discredit this guy.   And he's not the first one who's taken this course and spoke out, only to be discredited.

It's funny, 20 years from now, BUSH will known as a far worse president than Carter......hahahahah

[The Coach]

Bush erased his prison sentence and commuted him.

Did you miss that memo?



Ironic!

Because like alot of people, knew is was a bullshit trial. Libby was never even brought up on charges (or didn't YOU get the memo?). More on this later.

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Because like alot of people, knew is was a bullshit trial. Libby was never even brought up on charges (or didn't YOU get the memo?). More on this later.

I see.  It was a bullshit trial.  All those witnesses were all liars.  The jury got it wrong.

He lied under oath, Joe.  This is a fact.  He was found guilty in a US court of law.

You might disagree with it, and feel he was "right" in doing this, but it's not even debatable if he broke the law.  he did.  he was found guilty.



You look like less of a 'thinking man' and more of a 'blind party puppet' when you say things like this. 
Multiple witnesses, jury verdict.  He's guilty.  And he only had his sentence commuted - the verdict still stands to this day, correct?

[Tre]

"This doesn't sound like the Scott we knew" is the current party line.  I think no less than 4-5 people have said that today.