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Christian / Jewish Equivalents of...
« on: July 17, 2008, 05:03:04 AM »
Can someone try and point out to me the Christian / Jewish equivalents of:

Disbelievers (non-Muslims): are “worst of created beings” (98:6), are “miscreants” (2:99, 24:55), are the worst beasts in Allah’s sight (8:22, 8:55); (Christians and/or Jews are) turned into “apes and/or pigs” (2:65-66, 5:58-60, 7:166); (idolaters are) unclean (9:28); “evil” is upon them (16:27), evil (2:91, 2:99); “wicked” (80:42, 9:125); the “wrong-doers” (42:45, 2:254, 5:45); evil-doers (42:44); they have no good in them (8:23); are “guilty” for disbelieving (45:31, 83:29); on the side of Satan and are fighting for him (4:76-77); of the party of Satan (58:19); Allah assigns them devils for protecting friends (7:27); they choose devils for protecting friends (7:30); are partisan against Allah (25:55); “enemy” and “perverted” (63:4); disgraced lives (22:9); hypocrites (4:61); have a “diseased heart” (2:10, 9:125); are ill (84:20); deaf, dumb, and blind, and have no sense (2:171); deaf and dumb and in darkness, Allah sends them astray (6:39); have no sense (5:103); a folk who do not understand (9:127); their fathers were unintelligent and had no knowledge or guidance (2:170, 5:104); are “a folk without intelligence”/ “most ignorant” (8:65, 6:111); losers who are deceived by Allah (2:6), and deceived by Satan (4:60); liars/they lie (2:10, 9:42, 16:39, 16:105, 59:11) “losers” (7:179); foolish and liars (7:66), liars and losers (58:18-19), in false pride and schism (38:2), the lowest of the low (95:4-6).

These are quotes from the koran. I'm almost certain at least Judaism contains verses in the holy text like these?
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Re: Christian / Jewish Equivalents of...
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 08:59:41 AM »
Pretty much 1 & 2 Corinthians and Galatians 5 in the new testament speak on some of these infidelities but not as harsh as the Quran.

I did'nt have time to be more specific on the exact relevance between the 3 trains of thought (Jewish/Christian and Muslim). As far as I know the Torah or the Pentatuch focuses on teaching the law, doctrine, custom, theory, guidance and instruction or system of belief whereas in the New Testament God is allowing for and encouraging repentence and restoration of the lost.
IMO it appears that the Quran is more focused on condemnation and the harsh penalty of infidelity i.e.,  the Quran leans more toward condemnation and is less forgiving than the combined teachings of Old & New Testament of the Christian Bible (Canon of Scripture).

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Re: Christian / Jewish Equivalents of...
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2008, 10:58:22 AM »
Judaism has stuff like this in their Talmud which is Oral Law. It's the interpretation of the Written Law by the Rabbi's.

Karaites only follow the Written Law. Jesus was against the Oral law.

The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217399.0


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Re: Christian / Jewish Equivalents of...
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2008, 11:36:01 AM »
Judaism has stuff like this in their Talmud which is Oral Law. It's the interpretation of the Written Law by the Rabbi's.

Karaites only follow the Written Law. Jesus was against the Oral law.

The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217399.0

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Hustle Man, you got any references?
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Re: Christian / Jewish Equivalents of...
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 09:57:34 PM »
I know this won't matter to you, I want to correct myself.

there is 4 parts to the Oral Law,

1 Mishnah
2 Jerusalem Talmud - explains the Mishnah
3 Babylonian Torah
4 Midrash