Can a Promoter Refuse an Entry Form? I Don't Think So!

[stuntmovie]

Here's a question I've never thought about before because I can't recall the situation ever coming up where I have personally seen someone without a bit of muscle on his body volunteer to stand up on that stage in a pair of Speedos and attempt to hit some standard poses.

But to be honest I have to admit that I did see it once and only once when a qualified competitor entered a national contest and appeared on stage during the morning prejudging. But he was not invited to return for that evening's finals which offered a partial solution to the problem and the embarrassment of the promoter and the officials.

I THINK that in the current national events all contestants can appear on stage in the evening to be introduced and hit a pose but only the top five will remain on stage to compete for the overall.

I think that this same procedure should be adhered to at all NPC contests at all levels in all the states and allow the promoter to decide just how many contestants in each weight class will continue in the evening finals.

The guys who enter the event but have no reason other than their own intent to look foolish or to merely get back stage with the big guys would be more than welcome to hit an introductory pose but would leave the stage immediatly and proceed no further.

This would save a lot of embarrassment for one and all.... and especially for the contestant himself.

Any embellishments?

[Mr. Cortisol]

sure.  Suppose you have someone who starts fights, is a known drug dealer, acts like a fool on the stage, does something inappropriate, or just portrays a bad image.


Could a promoter turn down a guy with neo-nazi tattoos all over his body?  Or course.

Could a promoter turn down a guy for being a public spectable, bragging about cutting Ben1's brake lines, causing drama at events, etc?  SURE!  The sponsors could say they don't want that kind of riff raff on their stage, distracting an otherwise quality event.

Look at it this way.  Vince planned to bail out on the event again anyway.  All this does is give him an excuse.

[onlyme]

Why couldn't he.  It is his show.  Unless it is written in the NPC rules where he has to let anyone who is a member of the NPC enter.  I would think if a promoter sees a potential problem or something like that he can what he wants.  it is his money he is forking out not the NPC

[candidizzle]

"reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

[youandme]

yeah he can it is private property and his venue for the night, I was in a show and a promoter would not let a guy compete becuase he was using some injectable lasix and cramped up during weigh ins and the promoter denied him entry.

[The ChemistV2]

Here's a question I've never thought about before because I can't recall the situation ever coming up where I have personally seen someone without a bit of muscle on his body volunteer to stand up on that stage in a pair of Speedos and attempt to hit some standard poses.

But to be honest I have to admit that I did see it once and only once when a qualified competitor entered a national contest and appeared on stage during the morning prejudging. But he was not invited to return for that evening's finals which offered a partial solution to the problem and the embarrassment of the promoter and the officials.

I THINK that in the current national events all contestants can appear on stage in the evening to be introduced and hit a pose but only the top five will remain on stage to compete for the overall.

I think that this same procedure should be adhered to at all NPC contests at all levels in all the states and allow the promoter to decide just how many contestants in each weight class will continue in the evening finals.

The guys who enter the event but have no reason other than their own intent to look foolish or to merely get back stage with the big guys would be more than welcome to hit an introductory pose but would leave the stage immediatly and proceed no further.

This would save a lot of embarrassment for one and all.... and especially for the contestant himself.

Any embellishments?

I heard they refuse entries from your friend who poses to the Three Stooges.

[youandme]

I heard they refuse entries from your friend who poses to the Three Stooges.

I'm pretty sure if anyone attempts to pose to Fergie's "lady humps" song they are automatically DQ'ed

[The ChemistV2]

I'm pretty sure if anyone attempts to pose to Fergie's "lady humps" song they are automatically DQ'ed

I'm sure Mr. Stuntmovie will be happy to tell you about this guy who poses to the Three Stooges music. When I suggested a routine where the guy acts like Moe, and jumps into the judges, pokes them in the eyes, slaps them, and screams.."Why I oughta..." Stuntmovie got upset at me and said my humor was mean spirited or something..Go figure!

[stuntmovie]

ME!? Get upset!? I never ever get upset except for those times when people accuse me of gettig upset.

And maybe I get upset at other times that I can't recall cause when I get upset I tend to forget it soon enough.

Chem, good memory you got but I don't remember getting upset with ya. (Refer to sentence #2)

And The Three Stooges guy ended up doing many a guest appearance in a few local contests. He was in big demand and appreciated by tons of fans.

Thanks for remembering, Chem.

[GigantorX]

Why couldn't he.  It is his show.  Unless it is written in the NPC rules where he has to let anyone who is a member of the NPC enter.  I would think if a promoter sees a potential problem or something like that he can what he wants.  it is his money he is forking out not the NPC

Very good point. It is his cash so he gets to do what he fucking wants. If someone has a problem with it, then they can go dance around to Fleetwood Mac in front of a rabid crowd of gay men somewhere else!

[The ChemistV2]

ME!? Get upset!? I never ever get upset except for those times when people accuse me of gettig upset.

And maybe I get upset at other times that I can't recall cause when I get upset I tend to forget it soon enough.

Chem, good memory you got but I don't remember getting upset with ya. (Refer to sentence #2)

And The Three Stooges guy ended up doing many a guest appearance in a few local contests. He was in big demand and appreciated by tons of fans.

Thanks for remembering, Chem.

I'm just fooling around of course. I know you are one of the few people that knows the real history of bodybuilding and like myself, appreciated the greats from the 60's and 70's. I think it's great when someone tries to do something different (Three Stooge Routine) although I probably would prefer something a little more Heroic and dignified, which again is something you don't see much of these days.I like the Corney, Arnold, Zane style of posing.

[stuntmovie]

Thanks, Chem! I also know Quantum Mechanics pretty well but not the math parts.

ANd I still gotta disagree with youse guys who think that the promoter can refuse an entrant. Not absolutely sure but me-thinks that such promoter could be opening himself to a lot of legal bullshit if one wished to push the issue.

One of the most popular restaurants in the world had a major problem recently..... they only hired male waiters and homosexuals were not allowed to be employed. This was an old tradition from the old days as this particular restaurant was close to 100 years young.

This hiring habit soon changed when it was taken to court and women waiters are now very evident. I can't tell if any of the other waiters are gay or not but one always wears a feather boa and winks a lot as he dances from table to table

Therefore I believe that those who hire and those who promote are subject to the law or the "potential" law when and if they are selective as to whom they decide to hire or promote if such a person wishes to be hired or promoted.

The above is not the best example but it does tend to show that business owners and possibly even contest promoters are somewhat restricted as to whom they cannot  hire, fire, or even promote. That's why some form of a "qualifier" is so important.

[G o a t b o y]

Unless it is written in the NPC rules where he has to let anyone who is a member of the NPC enter. 

Isn't it?  If not, what is the purpose of an NPC card?  I thought the whole point of an NPC card was it gave you the right to enter NPC-sanctioned shows.

[stuntmovie]

Logical conclusion, Goat.

Better yet, maybe they should set new standards of qualifying for an NPC card then. This might tend to lessen the possibility of a legal suit and increase the quality of the athletes in the contest as well.