Blacks in US 6 Times more likely to Commit Murder

[Eldon]

Senator Barack Obama said in his memoir, The Audacity of Hope, "The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact." Yet he also claimed that to fear a black person on the street more than a white person is a racial "stereotype", "bred" into us.

To the contrary, such a fear is actually "grounded in reason and fact." When the numbers are crunched, a black person is almost six times more likely than a white person to be a murderer.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ed_reason.html

[danielson]

Only six times more likely? They kill themselves over what color do-rags they are wearing I surely thought the number would be higher.

[24KT]

Senator Barack Obama said in his memoir, The Audacity of Hope, "The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact." Yet he also claimed that to fear a black person on the street more than a white person is a racial "stereotype", "bred" into us.

To the contrary, such a fear is actually "grounded in reason and fact." When the numbers are crunched, a black person is almost six times more likely than a white person to be a murderer.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...ed_reason.html

You say that as if the fear that those who feel it have is based on stats and not stereotypes.
It's based on the stereotypes, and those with the agenda try to twist figures that don't tell the whole story as a tool to back up the crap they place in people's minds. I don't expect you to understand this. Those controlled by their reptillian brains are more prone to reaction than reason, ...so stats will continue to serve as justification for those who desperately need a methodology to fight reason and reinforce racist agendas

[Fury]

{giggle} How can 'facts' be false?  If it is false, ...it's not a fact.

You're claiming facts to be false or "twisted" in this thread but not in the other one. STFU.

[24KT]

You're claiming facts to be false or "twisted" in this thread but not in the other one. STFU.

If you're going to quote me from a different thread on an entirely different subject and in an entirely different context, and interject it into a different thread, at least show enough courtesy to the readers whose minds you're attempting to manipulate, to let them know this is what you've done.

ps: I have yet to validate his scribbles as fact.

[Fury]

Facts are facts. So let's say these figures are "modified." We'll err on the safe side and say only a little bit. Maybe it's blacks are 4-5 times more likely to murder. 

[ToxicAvenger]

what if u r a black muslim? 

[Nordic Superman]

I just might check it out. 

One of my distributors just got back from a spur of the moment cruise up to Alaska. He said it's gorgeous up there.

ps: They've got internet access and plenty of communication up there.

I know they have, why are you jumping to conclusions?

I said:
"move to Alaska in an area with no internet or means of communication"

Meltdown, thats not nice at all.

think how boring this board would be if everybody would agree with everybody..

Calm down ladies, she doesn't have to do anything I suggest.

[calfzilla]

Duh.
They are also most likely to commit rape and have HIV, and the list goes on and on.

It's true liberals opinions are based more in fact, that is if it supports their views.  Anything to the contrary they toss aside.   

[BayGBM]

This thread is a joke, right?

From the the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, to the slaughter of the Native American, to slavery, to lynchings, to (world) wars, to the Holocaust white murders are almost never cast in racial terms.  Why is that?  Could it be that the people who love to comment on these things are themselves white and have a racist agenda?

Indeed, the Holocaust has a particular place in the symbolism of whiteness and murder because it seems to represent the bringing to bear of the very thing that whites claim as their special virtue, civilization, to wholesale human destruction.  It was precisely the values of orderliness & systematicity that were used to exterminate from Europe the Jews, gays, and other human “dirt.” 

Heck, 20 million Native Americans alone were killed as whites moved across the face of North America in what was politely termed “manifest destiny.”  The entire genre of Western books and movies was designed to make murderous whites look like heroes and their victims villains.

I wonder sometimes why ignorant whites insist on playing the race game when they end up being the losers?  Throughout human history whites have been responsible for, or directly committed, more murder than all other racial groups combined. 

[tonymctones]

This thread is a joke, right?

From the the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, to the slaughter of the Native American, to slavery, to lynchings, to (world) wars, to the Holocaust white murders are almost never cast in racial terms.  Why is that?  Could it be that the people who love to comment on these things are themselves white and have a racist agenda?

Indeed, the Holocaust has a particular place in the symbolism of whiteness and murder because it seems to represent the bringing to bear of the very thing that whites claim as their special virtue, civilization, to wholesale human destruction.  It was precisely the values of orderliness & systematicity that were used to exterminate from Europe the Jews, gays, and other human “dirt.” 

Heck, 20 million Native Americans alone were killed as whites moved across the face of North America in what was politely termed “manifest destiny.”  The entire genre of Western books and movies was designed to make murderous whites look like heroes and their victims villains.

I wonder sometimes why ignorant whites insist on playing the race game when they end up being the losers?  Throughout human history whites have been responsible for, or directly committed, more murder than all other racial groups combined. 

im sure its study was in recent times and with recent events...

[a_joker10]

This thread is a joke, right?

From the the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, to the slaughter of the Native American, to slavery, to lynchings, to (world) wars, to the Holocaust white murders are almost never cast in racial terms.  Why is that?  Could it be that the people who love to comment on these things are themselves white and have a racist agenda?

Indeed, the Holocaust has a particular place in the symbolism of whiteness and murder because it seems to represent the bringing to bear of the very thing that whites claim as their special virtue, civilization, to wholesale human destruction.  It was precisely the values of orderliness & systematicity that were used to exterminate from Europe the Jews, gays, and other human “dirt.” 

Heck, 20 million Native Americans alone were killed as whites moved across the face of North America in what was politely termed “manifest destiny.”  The entire genre of Western books and movies was designed to make murderous whites look like heroes and their victims villains.

I wonder sometimes why ignorant whites insist on playing the race game when they end up being the losers?  Throughout human history whites have been responsible for, or directly committed, more murder than all other racial groups combined. 

Are you sure about that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_toll.
A quick look would say that Asians has been by far the worst killers with China leading the pack and that Japan was worse then Germany during World War 2.

[youandme]

This thread is a joke, right?

From the the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, to the slaughter of the Native American, to slavery, to lynchings, to (world) wars, to the Holocaust white murders are almost never cast in racial terms. 

Try to stick to the present day. Or I can quote some horrific stories from the journal of David Livingstone and the Britains expedition throughout Africa. Which makes eating babies intestines look like a sane and natural human instinct.

[Camel Jockey]

Aren't you black Eldon?

Should anything you post be given consideration since you're much more likely to commit murder than the rest of us? 

[George Whorewell]

Barack Hussein Obama is as delusional as they come. Liberalism by its very definition is grounded in idealism not realism.

Bay, while you are correct about whites being violent throughout history, and I dont agree with the assertion that one group is particuraly violent over another, in this day and age in America, by and large, violent crime is commited overwhelmingly by blacks. Its a fact not an opinion and most of the recipients of the violence are also black.  Also, in terms of white Genocide, lets not forget Stalins 100 million deaths after WW2 and Slobodan Milosevic in Bosnia during the early 90's.

I am of the opinion that for the most part everyone is violent regardless of race. However, I think in terms of religion Muslims by and large can be painted with a broad-brush as violent and psychotic.

[Fury]

Let us look at current day African events for safe measure. Genocide, civil war, violence in nearly every black country.

[Dos Equis]

Bay actually raises an interesting point, particularly when it comes to the Germans.  We don't really characterize what Hitler and the Germans did in race terms, but it really was a bunch of white guys murdering men, women, and children (and not just Jews).  I don't think you can really draw anything from that fact, but it is something we never really talk about. 

The Hitler reference struck a chord with me because I was at the Holocaust Museum last year. 

[The ChemistV2]

It would be interesting to have an study done by Anthropologists and maybe a neurological scientist to see why some races seem to be far more prone to violence and murder. Perhaps there are differences in the brain that would explain this.

[Fury]

It would be interesting to have an study done by Anthropologists and maybe a neurological scientist to see why some races seem to be far more prone to violence and murder. Perhaps there are differences in the brain that would explain this.

Well, statistically, the average black IQ is 10 points lower than the average white man's IQ.

[The ChemistV2]

Well, statistically, the average black IQ is 10 points lower than the average white man's IQ.

Even if that were true, doesn't neccesarily mean they would be more violent. If that were the case, lots of retarded people would be going around murdering people. Dumber does not always equal more violent. Maybe  something in the brain that causes them to snap easier. A cop friend of mine says he sees inner city kids killing each other over the slightest insults. They often will explain, "I's done kilt him cause he dissed me!" Guess you don't even have to slap them nowdays.

[Hugo Chavez]

what if u r a black muslim? 

those guys are fucked up IMO.  If we're talking about the Nation of Islam guys, they have this absolutely crazy creation story and white people are the devil, not just bad or evil, but actually devils spawned from the devil.  They're a hate group all the way.  Perhaps they would have never been formed if things were different but they are what they are and there is nothing good there.

[youandme]

It would be interesting to have an study done by Anthropologists and maybe a neurological scientist to see why some races seem to be far more prone to violence and murder. Perhaps there are differences in the brain that would explain this.

He or she could, but then they would be called a racist. It's been done, and it happens time and time again. If that scientist is not labeled a racist then it turns into a nature vs nurture debacle and the study goes down the drain. So it's either career suicide or lame duck. But I do agree with you, and it is very possible.

[The ChemistV2]

He or she could, but then they would be called a racist. It's been done, and it happens time and time again. If that scientist is not labeled a racist then it turns into a nature vs nurture debacle and the study goes down the drain. So it's either career suicide or lame duck. But I do agree with you, and it is very possible.

Very true. Political Correctness= Death of scientific objectivity.

[calfzilla]

He or she could, but then they would be called a racist. It's been done, and it happens time and time again. If that scientist is not labeled a racist then it turns into a nature vs nurture debacle and the study goes down the drain. So it's either career suicide or lame duck. But I do agree with you, and it is very possible.

But if a study is done that shows blacks to be superior at something, then the study is genious.   
Brutal double standard. 

[Deicide]

Of course; blacks have more testo, higher sex drive, bigger cocks, are physically stronger and faster...

Just look at Africa...still butchering each other...day in and day out...