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The Future of Lesnar
« on: August 13, 2008, 06:56:47 PM »
MINNEAPOLIS – Brock Lesnar is about the size of a small SUV and as powerful as a large one.

But what will one day make Lesnar the best heavyweight mixed martial artist in the world isn’t going to be his size or his strength. It’s going to be the quickness and the athleticism he shares with a guy who was sitting at ringside at the Target Center Saturday, watching him annihilate Heath Herring at UFC 87, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson.

Lesnar won a unanimous decision over the PRIDE and UFC veteran, taking the bout 30-26 on all three cards.

He’s only won one fight in the UFC and only two of his three career mixed martial arts bouts. A title isn’t imminent, but have no doubt, Lesnar will one day have a championship belt strapped around that massive body of his before he’s through.

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“I was blown away by how good he looked tonight,” UFC president Dana White said of Lesnar, the former NCAA heavyweight wrestling champion at the University of Minnesota and the one-time WWE pro wrestling champ.

If Lesnar’s weight doesn’t spiral out of control – and if he can continue to make the heavyweight division’s 265-pound limit – he’s going to be just as good in MMA as he was in amateur wrestling.

The fight with Herring – who had been in with greats of the game such as Fedor Emelianenko, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic – ended essentially after the first punch.

Lesnar stormed from his corner, as he did in his UFC debut in February when he

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 09:56:54 PM »
MINNEAPOLIS – Brock Lesnar is about the size of a small SUV and as powerful as a large one.

But what will one day make Lesnar the best heavyweight mixed martial artist in the world isn’t going to be his size or his strength. It’s going to be the quickness and the athleticism he shares with a guy who was sitting at ringside at the Target Center Saturday, watching him annihilate Heath Herring at UFC 87, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson.

Lesnar won a unanimous decision over the PRIDE and UFC veteran, taking the bout 30-26 on all three cards.

He’s only won one fight in the UFC and only two of his three career mixed martial arts bouts. A title isn’t imminent, but have no doubt, Lesnar will one day have a championship belt strapped around that massive body of his before he’s through.

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“I was blown away by how good he looked tonight,” UFC president Dana White said of Lesnar, the former NCAA heavyweight wrestling champion at the University of Minnesota and the one-time WWE pro wrestling champ.

If Lesnar’s weight doesn’t spiral out of control – and if he can continue to make the heavyweight division’s 265-pound limit – he’s going to be just as good in MMA as he was in amateur wrestling.

The fight with Herring – who had been in with greats of the game such as Fedor Emelianenko, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic – ended essentially after the first punch.

Lesnar stormed from his corner, as he did in his UFC debut in February when he

I think Lesnar should be okay as far as the weight issue is concerned. He wrestled all 4 years in college probably had to always cut there. Then there was Pro Wrestling and he actually got on the field (in practice) with an NFL team.
The desire to compete is probably strong enough to where he will make sure that won't keep him out of fights. He seems like he has his shit together, unlike some pro athletes.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 08:49:46 AM »
I think Lesnar should be okay as far as the weight issue is concerned. He wrestled all 4 years in college probably had to always cut there. Then there was Pro Wrestling and he actually got on the field (in practice) with an NFL team.
The desire to compete is probably strong enough to where he will make sure that won't keep him out of fights. He seems like he has his shit together, unlike some pro athletes.

I think it was pretty childish how he tried to ride Herring, though. I hope this MMA experience matures him, and molds him into a top 3 HW. I used to watch him wrestle with the WWF. Hell yeah, I remember when he beat down Hogan, and the Rock.

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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 10:09:25 AM »
I read that somewhere that Lesnar played safe...too fucking right he did and he would have been an idiot not to either. Lesnar played to his strengths from the moment he rocked Herring with that straight right and to be fair he would have been mad not to. The guy was coming off a defeat from Mir in under 90 seconds, he was fighting in his home town and with those factors in place he must have had the weight of the world on his shoulders despite what he would have told the press.

Lesnar wasnt fighting no tomato can either, he was facing someone who in my eyes was more formidable than Frank Mir. Admittidly Herring didnt get out of 1st gear but that was due to lesnar owning him the moment he planted that right in his face and mentally couldnt recover from it, especially with the G&P onslaught lesnar brought to the fight. Like Ebb mentioned before it was like watching Coleman when he 1st stepped into the Octagon.

Lesnar has the basic tools to get the job done at this moment in time but when facing the very best he will be out smarted & outclassed unless he works on his BJJ and submission defence which unless hes retarded and the people around him are too he will be fully aware of this. The guy is freakishly strong, is incredibly fast with superb wrestling skills and conditioning that is by far the best in UFC HW division in my opinion. Hes not complete by any stretch of the imagination but when hes worked on the apparent weaknesses he will be a force to be reckoned with thats for sure.

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 10:47:48 AM »
I read that somewhere that Lesnar played safe...too fucking right he did and he would have been an idiot not to either. Lesnar played to his strengths from the moment he rocked Herring with that straight right and to be fair he would have been mad not to. The guy was coming off a defeat from Mir in under 90 seconds, he was fighting in his home town and with those factors in place he must have had the weight of the world on his shoulders despite what he would have told the press.

Lesnar wasnt fighting no tomato can either, he was facing someone who in my eyes was more formidable than Frank Mir. Admittidly Herring didnt get out of 1st gear but that was due to lesnar owning him the moment he planted that right in his face and mentally couldnt recover from it, especially with the G&P onslaught lesnar brought to the fight. Like Ebb mentioned before it was like watching Coleman when he 1st stepped into the Octagon.

Lesnar has the basic tools to get the job done at this moment in time but when facing the very best he will be out smarted & outclassed unless he works on his BJJ and submission defence which unless hes retarded and the people around him are too he will be fully aware of this. The guy is freakishly strong, is incredibly fast with superb wrestling skills and conditioning that is by far the best in UFC HW division in my opinion. Hes not complete by any stretch of the imagination but when hes worked on the apparent weaknesses he will be a force to be reckoned with thats for sure.

Decent damn post.  Agreed, Lesnar is a beast but still has a long way to go, but unless he is surrounded by the total wrong people, they all know what he needs to work on.  He should take a trip to go train with Randy.

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 08:41:17 PM »
How can he be compared to Adrian Peterson, they are nothing alike, plush Lesnar completely sucked at football when he tried out for the NFL.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 10:02:07 PM »
How can he be compared to Adrian Peterson, they are nothing alike, plush Lesnar completely sucked at football when he tried out for the NFL.


they say he ran a 4.7 @ 300lbs

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 10:20:57 PM »

they say he ran a 4.7 @ 300lbs

STFU.  Thats insane if it's true. I'll bet Heath thought it was a 4.7 when he almost got plowed after that right hand.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 12:51:41 PM »
STFU.  Thats insane if it's true. I'll bet Heath thought it was a 4.7 when he almost got plowed after that right hand.

Brock looked like an albino rhino...

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 01:05:25 PM »
He made more $$$ in the WWE.  Not only that, but he would be nothing without the name he made for himself in the WWE.  Could of been a millionaire by now instead of those 10K purses he's making in the UFC.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 01:21:41 PM »
He made more $$$ in the WWE.  Not only that, but he would be nothing without the name he made for himself in the WWE.  Could of been a millionaire by now instead of those 10K purses he's making in the UFC.

He's making more in The UFC, if he wins.

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 04:02:21 PM »
He made more $$$ in the WWE.  Not only that, but he would be nothing without the name he made for himself in the WWE.  Could of been a millionaire by now instead of those 10K purses he's making in the UFC.
From what I've seen he's making MUCH more than 10k per fight in the UFC.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 04:12:01 PM »
STFU.  Thats insane if it's true. I'll bet Heath thought it was a 4.7 when he almost got plowed after that right hand.

that's what Rogan or that other announcer said that night...

personally I think it sounds like bullshit, but generally those guys make it a point to have their facts right before they're quoted as saying them

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 05:24:28 PM »
He made more $$$ in the WWE.  Not only that, but he would be nothing without the name he made for himself in the WWE.  Could of been a millionaire by now instead of those 10K purses he's making in the UFC.

Ain't worth it if your health is trashed when you retire.  Lesnar got out - before his knees/back/whateverelse were shot, which is inevitable thanks to McMahon's idea of "entertainment".  Already a millionaire several times over BTW....

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 08:28:15 PM »
Brock looked like an albino rhino...
:D  The guy's a bull, that's for sure.

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2008, 10:13:04 PM »
Ain't worth it if your health is trashed when you retire.  Lesnar got out - before his knees/back/whateverelse were shot, which is inevitable thanks to McMahon's idea of "entertainment".  Already a millionaire several times over BTW....


Wrestling is like working  4 jobs. Shit they have meet and greets, auto sessions, Photo shoots, matches and shows, and whatever else they fucking do. These guys work like 340 days out of the year at times. Not only that but the abuse that their bodies take day in and day out is incredible. I know wrestling is fake, but those guys are a great example of an athlete. There is also a huge depressionn rate with those guys. I don't blame Brock for saying fuck it and getting out. The rock was smart for walking away as well. Look at the guys who do it for years and years, they become a mess. Hogan is one of the only guys I can think  that have done well and be able to stay away for a while. THANK GOD FOR VH1.. ha-ha

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2008, 11:09:14 AM »
Most guys get out of WWE due to the crazy hectic travel schedule, you're on the road over 300 days a year, going from city to city...that's why a lot of bigger guys walked away in the past.

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2008, 11:59:54 AM »
You can't deny the money that make though. WWE's revenue in 2007 was approximately US $486 million, with a net profit of approximately $52 million. As of August 2006, the company's market capitalization is over $1 billion.

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2008, 05:18:10 PM »
You can't deny the money that make though. WWE's revenue in 2007 was approximately US $486 million, with a net profit of approximately $52 million. As of August 2006, the company's market capitalization is over $1 billion.

The top guys apparently make ~3-4 million US a year

pretty sweet paycheck if you ask me. Then again, so do the top MMA guys... with 3-4 fights a year and $500,000+ a fight.

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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2008, 09:05:12 PM »
Yeah, but the longevity in the WWE / WWF is alot longer than in MMA. Just ask Hulk Hogan or Rick Flair!