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Did Clinton get snubbed?
« on: August 22, 2008, 03:34:20 PM »
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Did Clinton get snubbed?
Posted: 06:23 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) — Two prominent Democrats close to Hillary Clinton expressed frustration Friday over a report Barack Obama’s campaign never formally vetted the New York senator for the vice presidential spot, and predicted the revelation could further rile some of her most fierce supporters just as the party is set to kick of its national convention in Denver.

Longtime Clinton loyalists Paul Begala and James Carville, who have endorsed Obama's White House bid, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Friday a Politico report claiming the Obama campaign did not officially consider Clinton for the coveted position would likely further anger some Democrats already wary of the Illinois senator. Both Carville and Begala are CNN contributors.

The matter is even made worse, Begala said, by the fact that Obama himself suggested to reporters earlier in the summer that he would consider Clinton, saying his one-time rival would be on "anybody's shortlist."

"There's two camps in Hillary land — there's the peacemakers and the PUMAs — Party Unity My Aunt Fannie," Begala said. "They're still not behind Obama. Some of them are stirring up a lot of trouble. I don't like it. I'm a peace maker. This story empowers the PUMA crowd because they see this, and I do too, as sort of disrespecting Senator Clinton and breaking Senator Obama's word.

"It's the one glitch in a beautiful process," Begala also said.

Carville, who along with Begala donated the maximum allowable amount to Obama's campaign immediately after Clinton exited the race, expressed particular frustration over reports Obama had not asked Clinton about her thoughts on who should fill the vice presidential slot on the ticket.

"I think we suffered a big blow today to the hard-liners," he said. "I don't think he's spoken to Senator Clinton about the vice presidency or even sought her council."

"We may be surprised if he picks her, but after that, it was pretty clear that not only were they not interested in had having her, they were not interested in her opinion," he added.

But former Clinton lawyer Greg Craig, who has supported Obama this election cycle, suggested Friday Clinton did not need to be formally vetted by the Obama campaign because of her lengthy stint in the public eye.

“I think that Senator Clinton is well known," he said. "Her service is well known. Her record is well known. And she herself said to the world that she's been vetted and ready to serve."

Meanwhile, appearing at the New York State Fair Friday, Clinton said she has never been interested in being Obama’s vice president.

I never said I [wanted the job],” she told reporters. “I have always said I will do whatever I can because I feel so strongly in making sure that we elect Senator Obama our next president.”

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Re: Did Clinton get snubbed?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 03:44:49 PM »
Paul Begala and James Carville will look mighty bad come tonight if she is the VP choice

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Re: Did Clinton get snubbed?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 06:26:46 PM »
Paul Begala and James Carville will look mighty bad come tonight if she is the VP choice

Nah, not going to hapen. Carville has friends across on the Obama side, he would not open his mouth if it were not true.


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Re: Did Clinton get snubbed?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 07:15:53 AM »

240 - we've been telling you all along that Hillary was not going to be his selection.

Still, though, there are many of her supporters who at least wanted the carrot dangled in front of her. 

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Re: Did Clinton get snubbed?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 07:31:03 AM »
240 - we've been telling you all along that Hillary was not going to be his selection.

Still, though, there are many of her supporters who at least wanted the carrot dangled in front of her. 

Hey, you were right.  I wouldn't want her breathing down my neck for the most powerful job on the planet either.  But I think she would have won it for him.

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Re: Did Clinton get snubbed?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 06:20:01 PM »
Still crying.   ::)

August 23, 2008
Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'
Posted: 05:00 PM ET

(CNN) — Evan as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.

"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."

A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.

"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."

"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."

Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.

"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."

Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.

One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.

The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/23/some-in-clinton-circle-outraged/#more-13837

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Re: Did Clinton get snubbed?
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2008, 12:11:41 AM »
whiners.