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Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« on: November 07, 2008, 10:36:32 PM »
Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
Friday November 7, 2008
By Timothy Gardner, Reuters



A rock found mostly in Oman can be harnessed to soak up the main greenhouse gas carbon dioxide at a rate that could help slow global warming, scientists say.

When carbon dioxide comes in contact with the rock, peridotite (top left), the gas is converted into solid minerals such as calcite.

Geologist Peter Kelemen and geochemist Juerg Matter said the naturally occurring process can be supercharged 1 million times to grow underground minerals that can permanently store 2 billion or more of the 30 billion tons of carbon dioxide emitted by human activity every year.

Their study will appear in the November 11 edition of the Proceedings of the Natural Academy of Sciences.

Peridotite is the most common rock found in the Earth's mantle, or the layer directly below the crust. It also appears on the surface, particularly in Oman, which is conveniently close to a region that produces substantial amounts of carbon dioxide in the production of fossil fuels.

"To be near all that oil and gas infrastructure is not a bad thing," Matter said in an interview.

They also calculated the costs of mining the rock and bringing it directly to greenhouse gas emitting power plants, but determined it was too expensive.

The scientists, who are both at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, say they have kick-started peridotite's carbon storage process by boring down and injecting it with heated water containing pressurized carbon dioxide. They have a preliminary patent filing for the technique.

They say 4 billion to 5 billion tons a year of the gas could be stored near Oman by using peridotite in parallel with another emerging technique developed by Columbia's Klaus Lackner that uses synthetic "trees" which suck carbon dioxide out of the air.

More research needs to be done before either technology could be used on a commercial scale.

Peridotite also occurs in the Pacific islands of Papua New Guinea and Caledonia, and along the coast of the Adriatic Sea and in smaller amounts in California.

Big greenhouse gas emitters like the United States, China and India, where abundant surface supplies of the rock are not found, would have to come up with other ways of storing or cutting emissions.

Rock storage would be safer and cheaper than other schemes, Matter said.

Many companies are hoping to cut their greenhouse gas emissions by siphoning off large amounts of carbon dioxide from coal-fired power plants and storing it underground.

That method could require thousands of miles of pipelines and nobody is sure whether the potentially dangerous gas would leak back out into the atmosphere in the future.
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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 10:41:37 PM »
Just a goofy, wacky thought--take the money those egghead scientists are using to fund their research into injecting rocks with heated water, and use it to buy some food for several thousand homeless people.

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 10:43:27 PM »
No.
No doubt about it...

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2008, 10:51:05 PM »
Just a goofy, wacky thought--take the money those egghead scientists are using to fund their research into injecting rocks with heated water, and use it to buy some food for several thousand homeless people.


Throwing money at poor people didn't worked for ages, why do you think it will work now?

I wouldn't be against it if it worked but it obviously doesn't so taking more from hard working people for a lost cause is surely not the solution.

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2008, 10:57:28 PM »

Throwing money at poor people didn't worked for ages, why do you think it will work now?

I wouldn't be against it if it worked but it obviously doesn't so taking more from hard working people for a lost cause is surely not the solution.


I'm just sayin'...  millions and billions in research grants are spent by people trying to save the world...  injecting rocks with water...  studying cows burping and farting...  If they really want to save the world, let the cows keep on burping and farting and put that money to a more practical use.

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2008, 11:22:37 PM »
I'm just sayin'...  millions and billions in research grants are spent by people trying to save the world...  injecting rocks with water...  studying cows burping and farting...  If they really want to save the world, let the cows keep on burping and farting and put that money to a more practical use.

Research have results, welfare doesn't thus it's more practical to invest in research.

Beside, a poor man of today lives much better than a king 200 years ago, so by improving technology you help them more than giving them more money for drugs.


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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2008, 11:35:03 PM »
Just a goofy, wacky thought--take the money those egghead scientists are using to fund their research into injecting rocks with heated water, and use it to buy some food for several thousand homeless people.
you can't be serious...  Dump research to save the planet for future generations to feed homeless people so they'll live to be fucked later with the rest of us.  I thought you leaned right, what's with the handout attitude :D

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 03:43:36 AM »
Jag, the title of the thread poses a question, can't you use your astrology (a dis-proven pseudo science) to answer the question for us? ???
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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 04:53:34 AM »
Jag, the title of the thread poses a question, can't you use your astrology (a dis-proven pseudo science) to answer the question for us? ???

She turned to reading in fake fuel pills now  8)

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 06:05:15 AM »
you can't be serious...  Dump research to save the planet for future generations to feed homeless people so they'll live to be fucked later with the rest of us.  I thought you leaned right, what's with the handout attitude :D

Yeah, yeah, I know...  I was half-kidding...  maybe because Jag posted it, I couldn't resist taking the opposing viewpoint just to be an ass because I was in an assy mood last night. :)

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Re: Can A Simple Rock Fix The World's Greenhouse Gas Problems?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008, 07:07:47 AM »
Yeah, yeah, I know...  I was half-kidding...  maybe because Jag posted it, I couldn't resist taking the opposing viewpoint just to be an ass because I was in an assy mood last night. :)

She doesn't need welfare she got fake pills and nude posing to fill her pockets  ;)

The sad part she might actually be for such an idea, especially if it will be pitched by the black Messiah.