Author Topic: Sam Harris on Death and Grieving...don't pretend to know things you don't know..  (Read 4605 times)

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He makes a few very good points. We all live like we would live forever. Nobody in a western society dies, and if someone actually does, it's covered up as fast as possible. If he would have left out the old simple-minded religion-is-just-wishful-thinking stuff, he would actually be able to call himself a decent philosopher.

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He makes a few very good points. We all live like we would live forever. Nobody in a western society dies, and if someone actually does, it's covered up as fast as possible. If he would have left out the old simple-minded religion-is-just-wishful-thinking stuff, he would actually be able to call himself a decent philosopher.

Jaja. We all go to hell or heaven just like the bible says... ::)
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Jaja. We all go to hell or heaven just like the bible says... ::)

Not if you put it like that we don't.

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Man, Sam Harris has got some big ears on him.   :o

He says that if you walk into Barns & Noble blind folded and pick a book, any book, that book will be much more useful than the Bible.  Then he said that he is not exaggerating.  Yeah, right.  Of course I believe the Bible to have been the most useful book I have personally ever read, and I can think of many useless books sold at Barns & Noble.  But without even going there, does Sam Harris even know that Barns & Noble sells Bibles too?  Watch Dumbo here walk into a Barns & Noble blind folded to prove his point and accidentally pick up a Bible.    ;D

He says that Mythology is useless accept for entertainment or except that it may make you think about yourself and your personality.  What about Mythology's historical value?  Has he never read of the Trojan Wars and the discovery of Troy's ruins?

He says that somebody who believes that life starts at conception will oppose "stem cell research" with disregard for those who are suffering from deceases that could one day be cured using stem cells.  What a liar.  He knows very well that those of us who believe that life starts at conception support "Adult" stem cell research, which has already proved very useful in curing many deceases.  What we oppose is "embryonic" stem cell research, which has so far proved to be useless and dangerous, and it requires the mass destruction of unborn babes.

I agree with wavelength, that Sam Harris has some interesting points, except for when he keeps coming back to trashing religion.  It makes it obvious that he has some beef with religion or with God that probably goes back to his childhood.

 

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Man, Sam Harris has got some big ears on him.   :o

He says that if you walk into Barns & Noble blind folded and pick a book, any book, that book will be much more useful than the Bible.  Then he said that he is not exaggerating.  Yeah, right.  Of course I believe the Bible to have been the most useful book I have personally ever read, and I can think of many useless books sold at Barns & Noble.  But without even going there, does Sam Harris even know that Barns & Noble sells Bibles too?  Watch Dumbo here walk into a Barns & Noble blind folded to prove his point and accidentally pick up a Bible.    ;D

He says that Mythology is useless accept for entertainment or except that it may make you think about yourself and your personality.  What about Mythology's historical value?  Has he never read of the Trojan Wars and the discovery of Troy's ruins?

He says that somebody who believes that life starts at conception will oppose "stem cell research" with disregard for those who are suffering from deceases that could one day be cured using stem cells.  What a liar.  He knows very well that those of us who believe that life starts at conception support "Adult" stem cell research, which has already proved very useful in curing many deceases.  What we oppose is "embryonic" stem cell research, which has so far proved to be useless and dangerous, and it requires the mass destruction of unborn babes.

I agree with wavelength, that Sam Harris has some interesting points, except for when he keeps coming back to trashing religion.  It makes it obvious that he has some beef with religion or with God that probably goes back to his childhood.

 


Actually until 2001 he never really thought about 'god' very much...
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Typical pseudo-philosophy. Thinking he still operates from within his little scientific world when in fact he already tries to tackle subjects way outside his scope of understanding.

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Typical pseudo-philosophy. Thinking he still operates from within his little scientific world when in fact he already tries to tackle subjects way outside his scope of understanding.

But within your scope?
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But within your scope?

It's not within the scope of the scientific mind, neither mine nor his, my statement was not meant as a personal attack. He seems to think he is still operating from within his scientific mind, when he is talking about topics like death, spiritual scripture, or salvation. His statements therefore lack the needed clearness to be of any meaning. It's always the same thing with scientific positivists, they constantly overstep their self-imposed restriction without noticing. This makes them bad scientists and even worse philosophers. I already said, if he would come to realize that, he could become a decent philosopher.

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It's not within the scope of the scientific mind, neither mine nor his, my statement was not meant as a personal attack. He seems to think he is still operating from within his scientific mind, when he is talking about topics like death, spiritual scripture, or salvation. His statements therefore lack the needed clearness to be of any meaning. It's always the same thing with scientific positivists, they constantly overstep their self-imposed restriction without noticing. This makes them bad scientists and even worse philosophers. I already said, if he would come to realize that, he could become a decent philosopher.

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Eine Tasse Kaffee?  ;D

Escht jetz Alde', isch drink kein Kaffe.

In Wien trinkt ma Kaffee, Oida.
Des Kaffe-Gschloda kriegn bei uns nua di depattn deitschn Touristen.

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this is very easy

there is only one

it exist outside of time

you are one

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Eine Tasse Kaffee?  ;D







How do you find this stuff?!!!  ;D

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How do you find this stuff?!!!  ;D

Do you like coffee Deedee?
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Do you like coffee Deedee?

Milchkaffee!


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Man, Sam Harris has got some big ears on him.   :o

He says that if you walk into Barns & Noble blind folded and pick a book, any book, that book will be much more useful than the Bible.  Then he said that he is not exaggerating.  Yeah, right.  Of course I believe the Bible to have been the most useful book I have personally ever read, and I can think of many useless books sold at Barns & Noble.  But without even going there, does Sam Harris even know that Barns & Noble sells Bibles too?  Watch Dumbo here walk into a Barns & Noble blind folded to prove his point and accidentally pick up a Bible.    ;D

He says that Mythology is useless accept for entertainment or except that it may make you think about yourself and your personality.  What about Mythology's historical value?  Has he never read of the Trojan Wars and the discovery of Troy's ruins?

He says that somebody who believes that life starts at conception will oppose "stem cell research" with disregard for those who are suffering from deceases that could one day be cured using stem cells.  What a liar.  He knows very well that those of us who believe that life starts at conception support "Adult" stem cell research, which has already proved very useful in curing many deceases.  What we oppose is "embryonic" stem cell research, which has so far proved to be useless and dangerous, and it requires the mass destruction of unborn babes.

I agree with wavelength, that Sam Harris has some interesting points, except for when he keeps coming back to trashing religion.  It makes it obvious that he has some beef with religion or with God that probably goes back to his childhood.

Woah! Stop! Seriously?

I'm an atheist, but to deny the Judo-Christian philosophies didn't play a key part in the success of the Western world is just lame.

I am of the opinion now however that it's time to move on.
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Woah! Stop! Seriously?

I'm an atheist, but to deny the Judo-Christian philosophies didn't play a key part in the success of the Western world is just lame.

I am of the opinion now however that it's time to move on.

Don't think he is denying this mate...
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Don't think he is denying this mate...

I guess not, didn't watch ALL the vids, only the first lol

One day however, I think they will be a time (if we survive that far) where we will look at the free reign religion has in society with TOTAL disgust.
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I guess not, didn't watch ALL the vids, only the first lol

One day however, I think they will be a time (if we survive that far) where we will look at the free reign religion has in society with TOTAL disgust.

I am already there young man...most of us are...
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I am already there young man...most of us are...

Yes as am I. Problem is, I a selfish bastard, I want this dream to be realised in MY lifetime, not when I'm dead ;D
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Who the hell is sam harris? ???
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