Most gear you can use without seriously altering hormone levels?

[Firemuscle]

 What is the most gear a person could use without shutting down their natural test or altering hormone levels.

 I've never done gear. The main reason is because I see that most guys who use it stay on forever basically. Seems like their hormone levels are out of whack when they come off and it takes them a long time to return to never, perhaps never fully returning to normal.

 This is why I havn't tried it. I don't want to be dependant on it. I don't want to get to the point where I require injections.

 So, what the most gear a person could do without entering this zone. An amount of gear in which the user can totally discontinue use without having too many adverse effects? Maybe something like a low dose of test and anavar?

[makaveli25]

Do an oral only cycle of anavar or tbol. 6-8 weeks.

[nunzi]

how old are you and how long have you been training for.  Personally i wouldnt do an oral cycle only.  id run test for 10-12 weeks @500mg.  followed up with proper pct you should be good with recovering.

[Luolamies]

It's impossible to answer to this question properly since every single person reacts to gear differently and also to the sides that come along with using. I myself use relatively low doses and do come off now and again, but i'm still "IN." Steroids really aren't something that you play around with so either do a proper cycle or forget the whole thing. After that proper cycle do a proper pct wait for a while and do a blood test, if something is wrong you can still correct it, if you see it early on.

[delta9mda]

It's impossible to answer to this question properly since every single person reacts to gear differently and also to the sides that come along with using. I myself use relatively low doses and do come off now and again, but i'm still "IN." Steroids really aren't something that you play around with so either do a proper cycle or forget the whole thing. After that proper cycle do a proper pct wait for a while and do a blood test, if something is wrong you can still correct it, if you see it early on.

im going to disagree with this. as a living machine we all pretty much act and react to drugs and other things the same.

when we get a cold almost all doctors prescribe the same shit because humans react the same to that.

same with gear. of course there can be varying degrees but for the most part taking gear more than the amount your body needs will shut you down. fertility/ endocrine doc told me that even for being on a month i more than likely would be in shut down mode. there is a correlation too with amounts of gear used and sides.

[Luolamies]

im going to disagree with this. as a living machine we all pretty much act and react to drugs and other things the same.

when we get a cold almost all doctors prescribe the same shit because humans react the same to that.

same with gear. of course there can be varying degrees but for the most part taking gear more than the amount your body needs will shut you down. fertility/ endocrine doc told me that even for being on a month i more than likely would be in shut down mode. there is a correlation too with amounts of gear used and sides.

Well 10-20 mg dianabol and i'm bloated into oblivion, my training partner was on 80 mg! and was not bloated at all and he wasn't on any anti-e's at the time. Also he gets zits, i don't, i get OK results, (results that i'm happy with) from 1-2 amps of sustanon per week, he needs at least 3-4...

Also another friend of mine did many many cycles of test + any oral available, he NEVER did pct, he has 4 kids. Then my ex coworker a bouncer did all by the book and now he's allmost forced into HRT since he won't even feel normal and clomid and hcg won't help him as much as needed and yes he has seen many doctors.

Also i sometimes feel anxious on gear and other times i feel "OK" my training partner feels like his on cloud nine when his ON. And yes we use the same gear... So we do react differently to many things. Just because people don't get noticeable sides from Advil etc. doesn't mean it applies to more serious drugs be it testosterone or LSD.

I agree with the shutdown. It will come faster than most believe, the worst are the pure OTC guys who do a cycle of superdrol/methasteron and do no pct or some weird OTC concoction...

[Firemuscle]

 I am 31. Been training since I was 14.

 I was thinking about doing like 500 mg of test and a little anavar or something like that.

 I'm just scared of the shrunken nuts, premature balding, hormone levels going out of whack, etc.

 I guess if i'm worrying about these side effects so much, i'm probably not ready for the gear then huh?

 On 500 mg test and some anavar. How intense are the side effects?

[Luolamies]

I guess if i'm worrying about these side effects so much, i'm probably not ready for the gear then huh?

 On 500 mg test and some anavar. How intense are the side effects?

1. Well...  Yes. 

2. Every reacts differently, but with those doses and those two compounds allmost no one gets sides that they couldn't handle. It's a pretty safe stack.

[Firemuscle]

1. Well...  Yes. 

2. Every reacts differently, but with those doses and those two compounds allmost no one gets sides that they couldn't handle. It's a pretty safe stack.

 Good stuff. Maybe i'll give it a try.

 I'm just worried about gyno, balding, shrunken balls and going limp.

 With test at 500mg per week with a little bit of Anavar or Dbol do you think these side effects would be an issue? Or only at higher dosages?

 I've go a nice full head of hair and big nuts, and I can get hard anytime. I'd like to keep it that way.

[Schmoe Buster]

Good stuff. Maybe i'll give it a try.

 I'm just worried about gyno, balding, shrunken balls and going limp.

 With test at 500mg per week with a little bit of Anavar or Dbol do you think these side effects would be an issue? Or only at higher dosages?

 I've go a nice full head of hair and big nuts, and I can get hard anytime. I'd like to keep it that way.

Run 250mg of Test per week plus 500mg of Primobolan per week and you won't have any if the sides you are worried about but you will enjoy the gym and get good results.
When I used high doses of test before the only sides I got was body hair growth on my back and some mild acne on the shoulders, no gyno or shrunken nuts and I don't use nolvo or HCG
A lot of the negatives regarding steroids are either made up or highly blown out of proportion