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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2008, 02:33:22 AM »
Muscles sell. We know this for a fact. A muscely actor with a good face is more attractive (to men AND women) than a slim actor with a good face. Muscles are advertised everywhere and usually generate great success for the product, e.g. a diet pill, fitness machine, or BBing/fitness magazine.

So, why are millions of men and women wanting to see muscles in a movie or magazine, yet not coming to shows to see it in real life? Niche sport - yes, but there is a REASON for that which must be known before its fanbase can grow.

THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:




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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2008, 02:53:38 AM »
THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:
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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2008, 02:56:37 AM »
Haha, finally a pic of Donkey "Zac" Kong! ;D

lol, do i also get to bang his chick?

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2008, 03:22:30 AM »
lol, do i also get to bang his chick?
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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2008, 03:24:12 AM »
First word... STEROIDS! Drugs are what hurt bodybuilders popularity in societies eyes. All the other stuff comes after that. Thanks for playing...

I think drugs is second.
Oiled up strutting around in thongs is still first.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2008, 04:45:22 AM »
THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:




hope this helps

They also regard Arnold, a beefed up Stallone, beefed up Dwayne Johnson, etc, as muscle packed, and they are actually muscle packed. In the upperbody, anyway. Most BBers have upperbodies to die for. Obviously a musclely body is not reason enough to attend a show or buy a DVD, etc.

I believe steroids have little to do with it. NFL is one of the biggest sports in the world and we know alot of those guys are using. Same with World's Strongest Man, baseball, and others. We get 'upset' if our 'favorite player' is busted for drugs, yet choose to be ignorant about the rampant use until we're forced to acknowledge it. In BBing, 99% of competitors use PED's. It's no secret, not even from the athletes themselves. Any talk about cheating is demolished by the fact that they ALL cheat, thereare it returns back to being a level playing field. Joe Public doesn't care whether steroids are illegal or not. That's not an issue unless you actually want to use them yourself.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2008, 06:56:09 AM »
THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:




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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2008, 08:03:36 AM »
Muscles sell. We know this for a fact. A muscely actor with a good face is more attractive (to men AND women) than a slim actor with a good face. Muscles are advertised everywhere and usually generate great success for the product, e.g. a diet pill, fitness machine, or BBing/fitness magazine.

So, why are millions of men and women wanting to see muscles in a movie or magazine, yet not coming to shows to see it in real life? Niche sport - yes, but there is a REASON for that which must be known before its fanbase can grow.

Because what they are selling is an illusion and by now everyone knows it.  Look at the infomercials for any of these ab products listed below.  EVeryone knows that the models featured in these ads did not get their bodies from using the products advertised.  As long as bodybuilding is built on drugs and lying advertisements it will be limited to weirdos & schmoes and rejected by respectable society.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2008, 09:57:53 AM »
They also regard Arnold, a beefed up Stallone, beefed up Dwayne Johnson, etc, as muscle packed, and they are actually muscle packed. In the upperbody, anyway. Most BBers have upperbodies to die for. Obviously a musclely body is not reason enough to attend a show or buy a DVD, etc.

I believe steroids have little to do with it. NFL is one of the biggest sports in the world and we know alot of those guys are using. Same with World's Strongest Man, baseball, and others. We get 'upset' if our 'favorite player' is busted for drugs, yet choose to be ignorant about the rampant use until we're forced to acknowledge it. In BBing, 99% of competitors use PED's. It's no secret, not even from the athletes themselves. Any talk about cheating is demolished by the fact that they ALL cheat, thereare it returns back to being a level playing field. Joe Public doesn't care whether steroids are illegal or not. That's not an issue unless you actually want to use them yourself.

Good post.

But I disagree with the steroids part. The public equates huge muscles with drugs, and whether right or not, bbing isn't losing that stigma. And while you and I know that most major sports and athletes use drugs, Joe Public is naive, and really wants to believe otherwise.

Again, comp. bbing is boring. Nothing is changing that. Pageants are boring to begin with, and this one happens to appeal to muscle worshipers and freaks (who can relate). Hardly any appeal in that. Now imagine if Joe Public knew or was aware of the shady side (or should I say shadier side, since comp. bbing is shady to begin with) and there's no way this thing is growing.

And please, stop referring to comp. bbing as a sport. THERE'S NOTHING "sport"  about it. Again, a pageant? Yes. A hobby gone wrong? Yes. A competition (when it isn't rigged), maybe. Hell, in Arnold's days, it may have even been an art form. Not anymore. Comp. bbing is about as sport as WWE, except, WWE wrestlers/performers actually have athletic ability/prowess. There's a reason why Vegas will not take bets on things like WWE and IFBB.....and they'll take bets on just about ANYTHING, think about it. 
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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2008, 11:12:53 AM »
Half bitchy, half flailing.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2008, 06:32:33 PM »
Because what they are selling is an illusion and by now everyone knows it.  Look at the infomercials for any of these ab products listed below.  EVeryone knows that the models featured in these ads did not get their bodies from using the products advertised.  As long as bodybuilding is built on drugs and lying advertisements it will be limited to weirdos & schmoes and rejected by respectable society.

http://www.infomercialratings.com/abdominal_product_reviews.htm

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Slendertone Flex
Smart Abs
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The top 'ab' products may be sold under false pretenses, but they do sell. Though, I think it's partly due to the supposed quickness of results combined with the models in the ads; because the stimulus of seeing a body that you may want to look like is a very powerful selling tool, even if the advertised product will only help you get 5% of the way there.

Good post.

But I disagree with the steroids part. The public equates huge muscles with drugs, and whether right or not, bbing isn't losing that stigma. And while you and I know that most major sports and athletes use drugs, Joe Public is naive, and really wants to believe otherwise.

Again, comp. bbing is boring. Nothing is changing that. Pageants are boring to begin with, and this one happens to appeal to muscle worshipers and freaks (who can relate). Hardly any appeal in that. Now imagine if Joe Public knew or was aware of the shady side (or should I say shadier side, since comp. bbing is shady to begin with) and there's no way this thing is growing.

And please, stop referring to comp. bbing as a sport. THERE'S NOTHING "sport"  about it. Again, a pageant? Yes. A hobby gone wrong? Yes. A competition (when it isn't rigged), maybe. Hell, in Arnold's days, it may have even been an art form. Not anymore. Comp. bbing is about as sport as WWE, except, WWE wrestlers/performers actually have athletic ability/prowess. There's a reason why Vegas will not take bets on things like WWE and IFBB.....and they'll take bets on just about ANYTHING, think about it. 

I agree about the public virtually knows they're on drugs, but like I said, the 'cheating' aspect should be negated because they're all cheating. But I guess that only snowballs the drug issue, rather than cancelling it out.

Sport or not, there is a reason that people see it as a stupid act with funny, weird-looking man who "will never have kids" and "have small penises", etc. I think there are two ways to go about improving its fanbase: 1) give building BIG muscles a more respectable image, both at the contests and in the mags, and 2) make the contests more entertaining to the general public. Not necessarily by expos, but something else.

Joe Public has no interest in finding out about the G4P side, since they're content to laugh at the sport the way it is in its purest form on stage.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #86 on: October 31, 2008, 07:04:25 PM »
no

its heydays were 70-80s

if it had any chance with the wider public it was riding the coat-tails of the fitness craze....it did to a degree - Arnie movie star, etc.

but no....the extreme look just aint cricket



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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2008, 12:59:04 AM »
Gone Away, you're wrong on one thing. Joe Public doesn't want his wife to find out about the G4P stuff.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2008, 01:41:58 AM »
Bodybuilding is serious business.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2008, 01:51:02 AM »
true chaos but i also think the bodybuilders dont help themselves. with the exception of arnold and nasser (maybe a few other) have any been anything other than dumb as hell?
Woah woah and fuckin woah..You cant mention Nasser in the same line as Arnold..
He is an oil filled pervert that backhands females as a hobby..

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #90 on: November 01, 2008, 01:51:32 AM »
when little midgets and blocky freaks will stay on winning important competitions i dont think the sport will ever be alive again.
people want bodybuilding champions to look like superheros, tall handsome huge but athletic looking, full head of hair and an overall healthy looking appearance, like offcourse the great bob chick and gunther schlierkamp other than that its an hopeless case.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #91 on: November 01, 2008, 01:56:04 AM »
Why the hell they didn't give Gunter an Olympia reign is beyond me.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #92 on: November 01, 2008, 05:42:11 AM »
Gone Away, you're wrong on one thing. Joe Public doesn't want his wife to find out about the G4P stuff.

Because Joe Public would consider doing that himself?

when little midgets and blocky freaks will stay on winning important competitions i dont think the sport will ever be alive again.
people want bodybuilding champions to look like superheros, tall handsome huge but athletic looking, full head of hair and an overall healthy looking appearance, like offcourse the great bob chick and gunther schlierkamp other than that its an hopeless case.

It would help sell the sport if the posterboy is a tall and attractive white man, sure. But, look at Ronnie. Although he's 8 time Mr. Olympia, most people know him from the Unbelievable DVD where he's deadlifting 800lbs and at the time he just happened to be Mr. Olympia. Anyone in he outside would barely know anyone besides Ronnie and Arnold. What guys like Arnold did is relate to the mainsteam population through showing he is just like them, yet at the same time showing them the charisma that makes Joe Public captivated to watch them, e.g. in Pumping Iron and that incredible deadlift. If more pros related themselves to the mainstream audience by being real and dispelling the meathead myth, it would likely start a shift towards the mainstream wanting to find out more about this niche sport; thus the sport having more chance for success.

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #93 on: November 01, 2008, 09:55:45 AM »

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #94 on: November 01, 2008, 10:26:37 AM »
No.  Not with this happening in public.  ;D

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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #95 on: November 01, 2008, 02:32:41 PM »
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Re: Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously?
« Reply #96 on: November 01, 2008, 05:38:47 PM »
"Let me get a closer look, Servio."



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