Ron Paul telling the truth on Barack Obama...

[Le4rner]

Perhaps because Ron Paul wanted to let the economy collapse and not intervene?
Since he thought then all would 'blow over' in a year.
Tell that to everyone with a partly paid house.
If all these people were thrown out of their homes, I'm sure Ron Paul in Washington would still be OK.
But it would be a tremendous disaster for USA.
Think 'Katrina', but in the whole USA.
I'm sorry, but Ron Paul is a fcuking idiot.
After 20+ years of deregulation that's fcuked up the economy, then he somehow thinks that MORE deregulation is what will fix the mess?

Is he kidding us? 

LOL dude, quit getting all your news from left based main stream media.  ROFL this is why the economy is the way it is.  No one dose any research on their own.  You can tell who is spoon fed news and who gets both sides.  ROFL  Thanks man I needed that.

[Hedgehog]

LOL dude, quit getting all your news from left based main stream media.  ROFL this is why the economy is the way it is.  No one dose any research on their own.  You can tell who is spoon fed news and who gets both sides.  ROFL  Thanks man I needed that.

yeah.
The economy is in bad shape, not because deregulation.
But because the 'media' is biased.
Nice one.

Here's a fact: Ron Paul is an actual contributor to CNN - he writes articles of his own for them.
Is that CNN being left biased?
How is CNN being left biased when they refuse Obama's infomercial, not only that - they brings McCain on to somewhat level the playing field.
What's wrong with that?

The stuff I'm refering to is straight from Ron Paul.
Do you even know what political platform that Ron Paul supports?
Or are you just buying into the whole 'outsider' gimmick? 

[Hedgehog]

LOL dude, quit getting all your news from left based main stream media.  ROFL this is why the economy is the way it is.  No one dose any research on their own.  You can tell who is spoon fed news and who gets both sides.  ROFL  Thanks man I needed that.

[Hedgehog]

LOL dude, quit getting all your news from left based main stream media.  ROFL this is why the economy is the way it is.  No one dose any research on their own.  You can tell who is spoon fed news and who gets both sides.  ROFL  Thanks man I needed that.

[Hugo Chavez]

LOL dude, quit getting all your news from left based main stream media.  ROFL this is why the economy is the way it is.  No one dose any research on their own.  You can tell who is spoon fed news and who gets both sides.  ROFL  Thanks man I needed that.

With Hedge sometimes I agree, sometimes not.  His ideas cross lines quite a bit.  The one thing I know is he's not the kind who only listens to left based media.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Style before substance, that's what makes people great.

In America especially.  One of the top headlines of Yahoo the night of his win was Michelle Obama's dress.   

[Bindare_Dundat]

yeah.
The economy is in bad shape, not because deregulation.
But because the 'media' is biased.
Nice one.

Here's a fact: Ron Paul is an actual contributor to CNN - he writes articles of his own for them.
Is that CNN being left biased?
How is CNN being left biased when they refuse Obama's infomercial, not only that - they brings McCain on to somewhat level the playing field.
What's wrong with that?

The stuff I'm refering to is straight from Ron Paul.
Do you even know what political platform that Ron Paul supports?
Or are you just buying into the whole 'outsider' gimmick? 

You said he wanted the economy to collapse. Wrong. That in itself shows you don't know how to read. I won't even get into the other stuff because it's not my job to spoon feed you. Sorry, don't mean to offend and I don't expect you to agree with everything the man says, I don't either, but to make a statement like, "he wanted the economy to collapse"... oh boy.

[Hedgehog]

You said he wanted the economy to collapse. Wrong. That in itself shows you don't know how to read. I won't even get into the other stuff because it's not my job to spoon feed you. Sorry, don't mean to offend and I don't expect you to agree with everything the man says, I don't either, but to make a statement like, "he wanted the economy to collapse"... oh boy.

I'm all for admitting when I'm wrong.
But I don't think I am in this case- about Ron Paul and not bailing out the banks I mean.
Ron Paul did actually state during the bailout talks that his solution was to just let system to itself, to not go in and take action.
That's how I've interpreted him at least.
Appreciate if you would point out exactly what I interpreted wrong.     

[Fury]

Ron Paul had the right idea. It might not be the best sounding idea, but he was right. Let the recession happen. Sure it will suck for the better part of a year. But the economy would rebound much quicker. I believe he's right when he says that all we're doing right now is prolonging a recession.

[Hedgehog]

Ron Paul had the right idea. It might not be the best sounding idea, but he was right. Let the recession happen. Sure it will suck for the better part of a year. But the economy would rebound much quicker. I believe he's right when he says that all we're doing right now is prolonging a recession.

We had a bank and housing crisis here in Sweden in the early 90's.
The government stepped in and took partial ownership of a few of the banks, saving thousands of mortgages.
A few years later the government sold off the bank shares without a loss.
And today, the Swedish banks aren't getting hurt as bad, because regulation was overlooked - although it is supposed to be replaced by an even more strict regulation.

So my point is that bailouts do work - if done right.
Just adding money into the system will most likely only prolong the inevitable.
Perhaps Ron Paul should look into how bailouts have worked in other countries.
Trying homecooked laissez-faire theories on US economy is beyond idiotic.

[Fury]

We had a bank and housing crisis here in Sweden in the early 90's.
The government stepped in and took partial ownership of a few of the banks, saving thousands of mortgages.
A few years later the government sold off the bank shares without a loss.
And today, the Swedish banks aren't getting hurt as bad, because regulation was overlooked - although it is supposed to be replaced by an even more strict regulation.

So my point is that bailouts do work - if done right.
Just adding money into the system will most likely only prolong the inevitable.
Perhaps Ron Paul should look into how bailouts have worked in other countries.
Trying homecooked laissez-faire theories on US economy is beyond idiotic.

While you're right, you do realize who is handling the bailout at this moment, right? I can honestly say I don't expect them to handle it like the Swedes did.

Maybe when B to the O takes over....

[Hedgehog]

While you're right, you do realize who is handling the bailout at this moment, right? I can honestly say I don't expect them to handle it like the Swedes did.

Maybe when B to the O takes over....

Haha, yes you're right. Ol' Hank Paulson, former executive at Goldman Sachs is shelling out the tax payers dough over Wall Street.
If we weren't CT nuts  before, this could get any sane person paranoid and believing in the Illuminati, the Sion protocol and any kind of dumb shit, hehe.   

[Dan-O]

We had a bank and housing crisis here in Sweden in the early 90's.
The government stepped in and took partial ownership of a few of the banks, saving thousands of mortgages.
A few years later the government sold off the bank shares without a loss.
And today, the Swedish banks aren't getting hurt as bad, because regulation was overlooked - although it is supposed to be replaced by an even more strict regulation.

So my point is that bailouts do work - if done right.
Just adding money into the system will most likely only prolong the inevitable.
Perhaps Ron Paul should look into how bailouts have worked in other countries.
Trying homecooked laissez-faire theories on US economy is beyond idiotic.

Laissez-faire--beyond idotic???  What--are the financial companies stupid helpless babies that need to be babysat?  Gimme a break.  If Uncle Sam wasn't wiping their ass and changing their diaper for them, believe me, they would have gotten it sorted out before too long to save their own skins, if nothing else.  But nooo, Sam the Eagle swooped in and took care of everything for them while so many fat cats took nice little junkets on the public's dime.

Call me idiotic--I would've liked to have seen natural selection take its course in the financial world.  And if people were in mortgages that they couldn't afford...  hey, again, natural selection in action.  Life is like that and we're all big boys and girls and if you make a choice then you man up and take the consequences.  I've been there--had it all, been busted down to nothing, worked my way back up again.  So forgive me if I don't feel sorry for suckers who got in deeper than they could afford.

[Fury]

Haha, yes you're right. Ol' Hank Paulson, former executive at Goldman Sachs is shelling out the tax payers dough over Wall Street.
If we weren't CT nuts  before, this could get any sane person paranoid and believing in the Illuminati, the Sion protocol and any kind of dumb shit, hehe.   

The brahs at the ol' GS know what they're doing. But I think ol' Hank's been sipping on the Repub kool-aid for too long.

[24KT]

Haha, yes you're right. Ol' Hank Paulson, former executive at Goldman Sachs is shelling out the tax payers dough over Wall Street.
If we weren't CT nuts  before, this could get any sane person paranoid and believing in the Illuminati, the Sion protocol and any kind of dumb shit, hehe.   

Interesting thread so far, and the videos are pretty good too. Over the past few months I've been coming to the conclusion that the McCain camp was purposely throwing the election. I must say all in all, it was a good show, ...it just dragged on a little too long after the intermission.

Anyway, ...got the following email from a friend in Quebec last week.... interesting perspective.

he writes:
Anyways I`ll send an announcement about the new stuff within the next few weeks. Today I want to discuss another reason why I have been rather quiet the last few months. I went on a journey of research and discovery and what I uncovered is really disturbing. Truth is, I have never been as conflicted and indecisive as I`ve been of late...

As you probably know, I have been following the current presidential race in the USA since the beginning and I must say that what I witnessed during that time truly shook my world. First Ron Paul had the courage to speak the truth during the debates and the public`s response to that was very favorable. Ron Paul instantly became a legend on the internet. However the mainstream media did everything they could to ridicule, marginalize and ignore Ron Paul and his message. Ron Paul received very little media coverage compared to the other candidates and to me this was the proof that I needed to conclude that the mainstream media was not reporting the truth but pushing for their own political agenda.

My discovery of Ron Paul`s message led me to tumble down the rabbit hole. I feel like NEO awakening from The Matrix!

During the past few months I did extensive research on the subject of Law, history, politics and religion and what I uncovered is truly beyond belief. I am still trying to make sense of all of this and trying to find evidence that support those findings. I am more and more convinced that the whole economic crash was by design, it is preliminary to the establishment of the North American Union and the New Amero currency. I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist but I don`t care, the evidence I uncovered all point towards that and I can`t ignore it.

This is NOT a war on terror, it is a war on sovereignty.

In the USA and Canada, the PEOPLE are sovereign; we are all kings on our own land, no one has any authority over us, we are ALL equal under the law of the land and for others to have authority over us, they require our consent. This is preventing the enemy from implementing their plans because they know people will not consent to it and they can not lawfully impose it on sovereign people. so... here comes the North American Union under the authority of the United Nations. Remember the Freedom Thread I posted a while ago full of great videos? Well I just updated it with with a bunch of videos about the North American Union and the United Nation. I don`t know anymore than you do if this info is accurate and if this North American Union and the new Amero currency will really come to be but I suspect it will. The economic crash will weaken the people and make them desperate enough to accept ANY solution, even a terribly bad one and Obama is perfect to sell it... I am convinced that both republican and Democrat candidates will bring about the exact same thing in the end, the new world order so like Ron Paul, I support Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution party. If I was living in the USA I would not waste my vote on the two party scam, I`d give it to someone I believe in and truly needs the support.

Why am I talking about politics here at [Name Deleted]?
Because the main reason why I created this site was help people, including myself, to reach financial independence and freedom through unity and cooperation and In my opinion network marketing is the best vehicle to get there. However, the more I look into this mess the more I see that goal vanish from anyone`s grasp. sovereignty is the most precious thing we have, without it we are nothing but human resources, subjects and slaves!

As a businessman is is very important for me to understand what is going on in the world if I want to succeed in this information age economy. With the economy crashing and all the changes that are coming, it would be foolish for me to ignore this. However, maybe I should have because what I discovered is truly life changing. Imagine if you were lied to your entire life and you end up figuring out the truth, could you continue to behave as you did in ignorance? could you ignore the truth and go back to your old ways?

Personally, I have a very hard time because I am a man of integrity and I always want to do the right thing. But here`s the problem and the reason why I`m so conflicted and indecisive... doing the right thing here is no simple feat, it`s very scary and challenging. What I uncovered has to do with the law and this means that I might have to change the way I do things and directly challenge my government`s authority in order to reclaim my sovereignty.
As I said... scary and very complex stuff.  

Anyways, I would like to know what you guys think of all this. I made a post in the the video threads forum containing some of the best videos on the topic of law and sovereignty in order to share what I`ve learned with you.


We shall see how all this plays out won't we....

[IFBBwannaB]

Ron Paul is right on a lot of issues, not all, but many.  nevertheless, you guys hit it right on the head.  He lacks the charisma and orator skills necessary to communicate as a whitehouse leader.  He has much more experience and gov knowledge than a person like Obama, but will never win because of his lack of social/personal polish.

At least he opened many people's eyes to many issues in the nation and I hope he continues to do so.
A guy like Ron Paul could help balance a leader like Obama.

Ron Paul have some great points !

Obama isn't a leader but a bought by donations puppet.

[Hugo Chavez]

Ron Paul have some great points !

Obama isn't a leader but a bought by donations puppet.

uhhhh, say hello to 98 percent of Washington politicians. 

The disclosure of Obama's fund raising: 90.7%
The disclosure of McCain fund raising: 87.1%

pretty close...

[IFBBwannaB]

uhhhh, say hello to 98 percent of Washington politicians. 

The disclosure of Obama's fund raising: 90.7%
The disclosure of McCain fund raising: 87.1%

pretty close...

Nice try to fuck up the numbers, 87.1% of legitimate donations don't bother me, it's the 90.7% of fraudulent ones that does.

[Hugo Chavez]

Nice try to fuck up the numbers, 87.1% of legitimate donations don't bother me, it's the 90.7% of fraudulent ones that does.

pure genius lololol

[Bindare_Dundat]

Laissez-faire--beyond idotic???  What--are the financial companies stupid helpless babies that need to be babysat?  Gimme a break.  If Uncle Sam wasn't wiping their ass and changing their diaper for them, believe me, they would have gotten it sorted out before too long to save their own skins, if nothing else.  But nooo, Sam the Eagle swooped in and took care of everything for them while so many fat cats took nice little junkets on the public's dime.

Call me idiotic--I would've liked to have seen natural selection take its course in the financial world.  And if people were in mortgages that they couldn't afford...  hey, again, natural selection in action.  Life is like that and we're all big boys and girls and if you make a choice then you man up and take the consequences.  I've been there--had it all, been busted down to nothing, worked my way back up again.  So forgive me if I don't feel sorry for suckers who got in deeper than they could afford.

Nice post.

[IFBBwannaB]

pure genius lololol

The truth hurts , I can see it in your reply 

You still have nothing to say in defense of his blunt disregard to FEC rules.

[Hugo Chavez]

The truth hurts , I can see it in your reply 

You still have nothing to say in defense of his blunt disregard to FEC rules.

Oh brother, you just made the post, yes I replied   If you think I'm going to sit on here 24/7 waiting to immediately reply to you, give me a freaking break.

What truth are you talking about, the disclosure for both McCain and Obama are close to the same?  If it were from illegitimate/not allowed sources, it would be in the undisclosed funds raised you idiot.  What you're doing right now is putting forth a conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up!  So back it up!!! oh you can't?  Then stfu

[IFBBwannaB]

Oh brother, you just made the post, yes I replied   If you think I'm going to sit on here 24/7 waiting to immediately reply to you, give me a freaking break.

What truth are you talking about, the disclosure for both McCain and Obama are close to the same?  If it were from illegitimate/not allowed sources, it would be in the undisclosed funds raised you idiot.  What you're doing right now is putting forth a conspiracy theory with nothing to back it up!  So back it up!!! oh you can't?  Then stfu

I got a thread about it, and I'm sure you know of Obama receiving millions of donations through his web site, donations that shouldn't be accepted.He thought that by the time he need to refund the money and the FEC will finish checking he will already have the seat...good thinking....criminal thinking but a good one and proved successful.

[Hugo Chavez]

I got a thread about it, and I'm sure you know of Obama receiving millions of donations through his web site, donations that shouldn't be accepted.He thought that by the time he need to refund the money and the FEC will finish checking he will already have the seat...good thinking....criminal thinking but a good one and proved successful.

give it a rest, now he can't accept donations through his website   Do you know how many candidates have done the same?  Are you busting on their balls?  You're just pissed because so many Americans donated to him.  I gave less than 200.00 a few different times to Obama and was required to fill out a form giving all my information before the donations were accepted...

Get a life.

[IFBBwannaB]

give it a rest, now he can't accept donations through his website   Do you know how many candidates have done the same?  Are you busting on their balls?  You're just pissed because so many Americans donated to him.  I gave less than 200.00 a few different times to Obama and was required to fill out a form giving all my information before the donations were accepted...

Get a life.

So I guess the FEC red flagged a few thousands of donations for nothing 

You just don't care he commit frauds since you think he's the one