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Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."


"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 11:43:20 PM »
Colin Powell has made bizarre comments that echo the recent declaration by Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden that there will be an "international crisis" early into Barack Obama's presidency that will test the new president by forcing him to make unpopular decisions.

Speaking on meet the press two days ago, Powell officially endorsed Obama and also made the following statement:

"The problems will always be there and there's going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st, 22nd of January that we don't even know about right now."   ???

So I think what the President has to start to do is to start using the power of the oval office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and convince the world that America is solid, that America is going to move forward, we are going to fix our economic problems, we're going to meet out overseas obligations."


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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2008, 12:16:23 AM »

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 12:28:53 AM »
Watch at 2:35
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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 12:30:33 AM »
shit I hate it when youtube screws up

stuck at 0:02


I think it's weird they would say this. IMO it's seems like more of a distraction than anything.


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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 12:42:27 AM »
shit I hate it when youtube screws up

stuck at 0:02


I think it's weird they would say this. IMO it's seems like more of a distraction than anything.



 What is it that both these guys are referring to or are they just talking shit? What would put them so low in their supporters eyes?

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2008, 01:05:21 AM »
What is it that both these guys are referring to or are they just talking shit?

he said it so nonchalantly.

I could see it as being a disinfo plant. probably is, if something happens then you know they are screwing with the people.



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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 02:39:47 AM »
A lot of Foreshadowing go on...


I believe we are being set up for what Hal Turner lays out here



Now we know what the FEMA camps are being built for...Good luck guys and now is the time to hit the weights hard...You will need to muscle your way to the front of  the bread lines. ;)




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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 03:49:17 AM »
bidden was referring to the fact that all presidents are tested early in there presidency
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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 03:50:14 AM »
I think there is some misunderstanding here.  Note his use of the word generated.  He's not talking from a point of view that they will generated the crisis and people must stand by Obama.  That's directly admitting they'll pull a neocon on us.  The use of the word generated is an accusation.  We saw how a year+ ago they tried to generate a buildup to a showdown with Iran the same ways they did so with Iraq.  The neocons will be out of power of direct influence with the president.  That does not leave them without power to generate a crisis.  One of the biggest worries I have recognized is that even if I vote for the guy the neocons don't want, that doesn't necessarily mean the neocons can't get what they want.  Imagine if you will, and it's not hard to imagine, Iran incident of some sort and a neoconservative led media campaign following...  Public opinion turns thus placing pressure on the president to act on the crisis in a certain way.  Remember, the key use of generated by Biden is an accusation, not an admition.  Stand by Obama is a call to not be led by those behind the generating of the crisis.  What I will say is that the timing of these statements are odd.  I see no political gain in making them.  I heard the same thing from McCain yesterday, was he quoting Obama or was Biden replying to McCain...  McCain spoke of the generated crisis in 6 months and said he was tested during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 07:35:24 AM »
I think there is some misunderstanding here.  Note his use of the word generated.  He's not talking from a point of view that they will generated the crisis and people must stand by Obama.  That's directly admitting they'll pull a neocon on us.  The use of the word generated is an accusation.  We saw how a year+ ago they tried to generate a buildup to a showdown with Iran the same ways they did so with Iraq.  The neocons will be out of power of direct influence with the president.  That does not leave them without power to generate a crisis.  One of the biggest worries I have recognized is that even if I vote for the guy the neocons don't want, that doesn't necessarily mean the neocons can't get what they want.  Imagine if you will, and it's not hard to imagine, Iran incident of some sort and a neoconservative led media campaign following...  Public opinion turns thus placing pressure on the president to act on the crisis in a certain way.  Remember, the key use of generated by Biden is an accusation, not an admition.  Stand by Obama is a call to not be led by those behind the generating of the crisis.  What I will say is that the timing of these statements are odd.  I see no political gain in making them.  I heard the same thing from McCain yesterday, was he quoting Obama or was Biden replying to McCain...  McCain spoke of the generated crisis in 6 months and said he was tested during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Whats with Powell use of actual dates? Why is Biden gauranteeing something is going to happen in six months, like Powell prediction? What is that these guys know that no one else does. the whole thing looks weird. I don't even understand why Biden would open his mouth to these things right now. It just doesn't sound good at all.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2008, 07:38:09 AM »
A lot of Foreshadowing go on...


I believe we are being set up for what Hal Turner lays out here



Now we know what the FEMA camps are being built for...Good luck guys and now is the time to hit the weights hard...You will need to muscle your way to the front of  the bread lines. ;)





I don't care for the guy you mentioned but there is a LOT of talk of an International economic watchdog and "a sweeping overhaul of the global financial system".  Who knows.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2008, 07:44:22 AM »
Whats with Powell use of actual dates? Why is Biden gauranteeing something is going to happen? What is that these guys know that no one else does. the whole thing looks weird. I don't even understand why Biden would open his mouth to these things right now. It just doesn't sound good at all.
It does sound strange but...  The dates powell used would be the first days of the new presidency.  Perhaps he used those dates just to say a whole new set of problems will be faced in the next admin. Jan 20th is Inauguration day.  He said it so casual and didn't even raise an eyebrow from Brokaw...  I think that's what was meant.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2008, 07:49:36 AM »
but, I believe 100% a "generated crisis" is absolutely something we can probably count on.  I've been thinking like this for a long time and weighing what it means to vote for the guy not supported by the neoconservatives.  It's just bad timing to bring it up now.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2008, 08:12:18 AM »
Agree, seems very odd to mention this 2 weeks out of the election.  High ranking officials are aware of threats much sooner than we are, makes you wonder.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2008, 12:58:29 PM »
The Democratic 9/11 is coming!  *Puts on tinfoil hat*. Probably going to involve a Pakistan invasion!

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2008, 06:48:48 PM »
Interesting, other than Hugo, all the other Obama fans ignore this like the plague. It would nice to hear supporter opinion. What would an Obama administration do to find themselves so low in the polls, as Biden said would happen.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2008, 06:59:20 PM »
I know that reagan almost got shot, a month into his term.

I know that the WTC was attacked in Bill Clinton's first 3 months.

I know that 911 happened on W's 9th month.

I don't know if anything happened at the beginning of Bush's term in 89, does anyone?

Whoever or whatever forces drive these terrible things, they usually do happen early in presidencies, I think.
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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2008, 07:04:36 PM »
I know that reagan almost got shot, a month into his term.

I know that the WTC was attacked in Bill Clinton's first 3 months.

I know that 911 happened on W's 9th month.

I don't know if anything happened at the beginning of Bush's term in 89, does anyone?

Whoever or whatever forces drive these terrible things, they usually do happen early in presidencies, I think.


bidden was referring to the fact that all presidents are tested early in there presidency
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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2008, 07:12:25 PM »
sorry you beat me to it

it's all good these guys just here what they want to hear
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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2008, 07:38:30 PM »
I know that reagan almost got shot, a month into his term.

I know that the WTC was attacked in Bill Clinton's first 3 months.

I know that 911 happened on W's 9th month.

I don't know if anything happened at the beginning of Bush's term in 89, does anyone?

Whoever or whatever forces drive these terrible things, they usually do happen early in presidencies, I think.

That doesnt explain why Biden said their decisions would put them low in the polls with the people, if anything the 9/11 event put Bush support numbers higher than any other president. Obama getting shot, that's not international crisis.  Basically nothing you described would put any administration low in the polls.

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »
I know that reagan almost got shot, a month into his term.

I know that the WTC was attacked in Bill Clinton's first 3 months.

I know that 911 happened on W's 9th month.

I don't know if anything happened at the beginning of Bush's term in 89, does anyone?

Whoever or whatever forces drive these terrible things, they usually do happen early in presidencies, I think.

We "invaded" Panama. Hard to invade a country when half the invasion calls for the 5th ID rolling out the main gate but anyway. U guys are nuts. Obama wins and its still a neocon plot. If we get hit agin its because Obama is seen as weak or the plan was in the works for months or years and they were going to try anyway. If we get hit, thats the reason. If its an overseas attack ot incident, it may be to test his will.
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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2008, 08:22:38 PM »
it's all good these guys just here what they want to hear

and you answer the parts of questions you wanna answer. 

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Re: Joe Biden gaurantees a "generated International crisis" within 6 months
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2008, 11:05:54 PM »
US vice president-elect Joe Biden warned in a television interview that the economy is in danger of "absolutely tanking.""The economy is in much worse shape than we thought it was in," Biden told ABC News in an interview to air Sunday morning. He called for an economic stimulus package of 600 billion to 700 billion dollars.

"There is no short run other than keeping the economy from absolutely tanking. That's the only short run," Biden said according to excerpts made public before the broadcast.