Not sure who Dan did or didn't like but when I would hang out with him he seemed somewhat sick of bodybuilding. He said " I am so over it" when I asked him where he thought it would go in the future.
I think he was burnt after going to prison and all the BS.
He liked to speak on anything technical, engineering, acoustics, etc. If you had any sort of technical knowledge he would engage you in conversation. He seemed to detest the usual " who has the best calves", etc...
You are correct about him being from Maine, I remember him visiting his sister or mother back there. They had a house he would visit.
I am not sure if Dan was addicted to Nubain. He was a very private person and would give you only small pieces of information as he trusted you more. He never seemed to be Jonesing for it but it was always there. Keep in mind that I probably saw him once a month for dinner, etc..
He did seem to want people to indulge whether that be Nubain, AAS, or GHB. He seemed to want to conquer me in that I did none of those substances and he overtly wanted me to try them. He offered me free Nubain, AAS and GHB but I only tried the GHB which made me nauseous unless I ate food before taking it. It wasn't really my thing unless I was having sex. It made sex way better but otherwise I don't like to be doped up.
The AAS issue was unique in that Dan offered it to me free of charge and would supervise everything. I knew this is an offer most BB'ers would die for but I wear a suit at work, work in the medical field and can't be 260 bursting out a suit. It just wouldn't work for me. I remember he kept saying the supplements I was taking were worthless and I could make better gains on one cycle with him than I have in the last 10 years.
Our only disagreement was in regards to Nubain as he pitched it to me as a relaxant, gets you mellow and I knew it was an opiate, a chemical cousin to Heroin and I knew this stuff was bad news. I was pissed he would so casually offer me something so dangerous and told him so. I remember he wanted me to inject it intramuscularly and not intravenously, like IM was somehow not as serious as IV. Either way, it wasn't for me and he dropped it.
As far as the guys on this board are concerned it is pretty cool to have a friend who would come over with cases of Designer Protein, UO, etc.. I must have had 30-40 cans of each in my house and had to tell him to stop as I filled a walk in closet with all the powders.
He would also use me as a Guinea Pig when he was brewing up new batches of Ultimate Orange, Ultimate Punch and ISO 3 which he called ISO Cubed. It was actually a good product but I am not sure if it ever got to market. I was also his Guinea Pig for a chemical called DNP which is a fat burner. I took it like an idiot in some pills Dan put together himself and I thought my head was going to melt off my shoulders. It was the only time in my life I ever considered going to the emergency room.
I also remember him writing a diet or training book and he would let me check out the chapters before he submitted them. He also asked for my input on the cover photo which I thought was unmarketable. I am not sure if it ever was published but he seemed determined to finish it so I am guessing he had a publisher.
Dan was interesting but dangerous. He was knowledgeable on many different subjects but he left a wake of destruction behind him of the followers who would do as he said no questions asked. Manly chicks which I saw firsthand, drugs, etc...
My roomate worked with Dan at Next Nutrition and took Dan up on his offer of free GHB and it eventually sank him. He got hooked, was delusional with hallucinations and was eventually commited to a hospital.
Once he got out he was sent to a halfway house and one day he just didn't wakeup. I think the cause of death was probably kidney failure but I never confirmed it as I isolated myself after he died.
I was pretty much done with Dan at this time and we only spoke one more time after my friend passed away. As you know a few years later he died.
There are other stories I can remember but some I am not sure I am comfortable sharing but he lived his life well and probably saw more than most of us ever will.
