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Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« on: December 30, 2008, 07:51:27 AM »
Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
Tue Dec 30, 6:59 am ET

WASHINGTON – Hurricane Katrina not only pulverized the Gulf Coast in 2005, it knocked the bully pulpit out from under President George W. Bush, according to two former advisers who spoke candidly about the political impact of the government's poor handling of the natural disaster.

"Katrina to me was the tipping point," said Matthew Dowd, Bush's pollster and chief strategist for the 2004 presidential campaign. "The president broke his bond with the public. Once that bond was broken, he no longer had the capacity to talk to the American public. State of the Union addresses? It didn't matter. Legislative initiatives? It didn't matter. P.R.? It didn't matter. Travel? It didn't matter."

Dan Bartlett, former White House communications director and later counselor to the president, said: "Politically, it was the final nail in the coffin."

Their comments are a part of an oral history of the Bush White House that Vanity Fair magazine compiled for its February issue, which hits newsstands in New York and Los Angeles on Wednesday, and nationally on Jan. 6. Vanity Fair published comments by current and former government officials, foreign ministers, campaign strategists and numerous others on topics that included Iraq, the anthrax attacks, the economy and immigration.

Lawrence Wilkerson, top aide and later chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, said that as a new president, Bush was like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee whom critics said lacked knowledge about foreign affairs. When Bush first came into office, he was surrounded by experienced advisers like Vice President Dick Cheney and Powell, who Wilkerson said ended up playing damage control for the president.

"It allowed everybody to believe that this Sarah Palin-like president — because, let's face it, that's what he was — was going to be protected by this national-security elite, tested in the cauldrons of fire," Wilkerson said, adding that he considered Cheney probably the "most astute, bureaucratic entrepreneur" he'd ever met.

"He became vice president well before George Bush picked him," Wilkerson said of Cheney. "And he began to manipulate things from that point on, knowing that he was going to be able to convince this guy to pick him, knowing that he was then going to be able to wade into the vacuums that existed around George Bush — personality vacuum, character vacuum, details vacuum, experience vacuum."

On other topics, David Kuo, who served as deputy director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, disputed the idea that the Bush White House was dominated by religious conservatives and catered to the needs of a religious right voting bloc.

"The reality in the White House is — if you look at the most senior staff — you're seeing people who aren't personally religious and have no particular affection for people who are religious-right leaders," Kuo said.

"In the political affairs shop in particular, you saw a lot of people who just rolled their eyes at ... basically every religious-right leader that was out there, because they just found them annoying and insufferable. These guys were pains in the butt who had to be accommodated."

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 08:22:56 AM »

Lawrence Wilkerson, top aide and later chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, said that as a new president, Bush was like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee whom critics said lacked knowledge about foreign affairs. When Bush first came into office, he was surrounded by experienced advisers like Vice President Dick Cheney and Powell, who Wilkerson said ended up playing damage control for the president.

"It allowed everybody to believe that this Sarah Palin-like president — because, let's face it, that's what he was — was going to be protected by this national-security elite, tested in the cauldrons of fire," Wilkerson said, adding that he considered Cheney probably the "most astute, bureaucratic entrepreneur" he'd ever met.

Wow, Palin is the punchline in stories that aren't even about her.

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 08:29:22 AM »
Wow, Palin is the punchline in stories that aren't even about her.

Wow,from a guy that was with Powel who hates Palin.Who cares?All these black politicians hated Palin,remember the fool Alcie Hastings who said because she stripped moose she hated blacks and jews.Powell fell right into line and so did his staff.However,she is still governor and that fool is out of a job.Who is the winner?

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 08:30:24 AM »
I don't get it.

Didn't Bush say Brownie was doing a heck of a job?

Why would he say that if he didn't really believe it?

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 09:47:10 AM »
I don't get it.

Didn't Bush say Brownie was doing a heck of a job?

Why would he say that if he didn't really believe it?

GWB lost me in 2005 when he, immediately after re-election, pushed amnesty for illegal aliens and then Harriet Miers.

Katrina was largely the fault of Ray Nagin and the Gov.


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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 09:49:33 AM »
GWB lost me in 2005 when he, immediately after re-election, pushed amnesty for illegal aliens and then Harriet Miers.

Katrina was largely the fault of Ray Nagin and the Gov.



I had forgotten about Harriet Miers.


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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 09:53:35 AM »
Wow,from a guy that was with Powel who hates Palin.Who cares?All these black politicians hated Palin,remember the fool Alcie Hastings who said because she stripped moose she hated blacks and jews.Powell fell right into line and so did his staff.However,she is still governor and that fool is out of a job.Who is the winner?

Obama/Biden is the winner.

Mccain/Palin are the losers.

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 10:15:32 AM »
Obama/Biden is the winner.

Mccain/Palin are the losers.

I cant argue that BUT just remember.
AL GORE-LOOOOOOOSER
JOHN KERRY -LOOOOSER
GEORGE W BUSH-WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 12:56:01 PM »
I cant argue that BUT just remember.
AL GORE-LOOOOOOOSER
JOHN KERRY -LOOOOSER
GEORGE W BUSH-WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but is he really. If you go down as a pres who might have stolen 2 elections, a pres who dosent seem too bright, someone who let the economy go to shit under their watch, sent many young people to a very unpopular war and has had his hand on a few scandals. He might go down as one of the worst presidents ever in life...
Bush=Semi- Looser

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 01:05:44 PM »
I cant argue that BUT just remember.
AL GORE-LOOOOOOOSER

GEORGE W BUSH-WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In 100 years, I wonder how history will view both of these men.

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2008, 01:43:02 PM »
In 100 years, I wonder how history will view both of these men.

Both are clowns, Gore however, taking clownism to a whole new level.

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2008, 03:17:03 PM »
but is he really. If you go down as a pres who might have stolen 2 elections, a pres who dosent seem too bright, someone who let the economy go to shit under their watch, sent many young people to a very unpopular war and has had his hand on a few scandals. He might go down as one of the worst presidents ever in life...
Bush=Semi- Looser

All true.However,he beat both Gore and Kerry[they recounted Florida twenty times Bush won everytime,including the times left wing recounting].Imagine that?A dunce,who cant speak beat Al Gore,a guy coming off 8 good years as vice president,with a good economy no war,good times the smartest man in the world according to the media and he still got his ass beat.

Then,John Kerry,the guy who thinks he is Thurston Howell the third with his Mass. accent and sophisticated manners and billionaire wife.A guy the media said was brilliant[even though his college scores were worse the Bushs'].He got his ass handed to him as well.A war that everyone hated,"tax cuts for the rich",out of touch and the "dummy" kicked his fucking ass.

I cant think of a better definition of a looser then getting your ass handed to you by a dunce.Imagine that?I believe Kerry said "I cant believe Im loosing to that fucking idiot".Exactly.What does that say about them?
So,to say Palin is a looser,even though she has 80% approval ratings is as stupid as saying Bush is a winner,isnt it?

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2008, 03:29:20 PM »
he never did...

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2008, 04:16:07 PM »
he never did...

240 said PALIN-LOOSER.READ THE FREAKING THREAD!!!

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2008, 08:08:55 PM »
PALIN-LOOSER

"Looser" than what?

Kinda disrespectful, dude.  Attack her intelligence or poise or education - but vaginal integrity?  She had 4 5 kids... cut her some slack :(

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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2008, 08:20:43 PM »
"Looser" than what?

Kinda disrespectful, dude.  Attack her intelligence or poise or education - but vaginal integrity?  She had 4 5 kids... cut her some slack :(

After 4   5 kids ...I think it's safe to assume she has more slack than she wants.  :P
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Re: Ex-Bush aides say he never recovered from Katrina
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2008, 08:38:49 PM »
After 4   5 kids ...I think it's safe to assume she has more slack than she wants.  :P

hahaha where is the pic she took with a fan at the seattle airport, 12 hours after her water broke, looking super skinny and smiling, while supposedly on the trip back home to give bitch?  Oh brother, what a silly story this one turned out to be :)