Man it's been a long time since anyone made a legitimate attempt at suggesting that superior gym equipment would create a superior physique...if you'll remember that was Levrone's premise prior to this run one year and it worked...he said he was almost all machines for that year because he'd gotten a bunch of new ones for his gym and was loving them, him saying it made me not want to doubt it...this is where these guys earn their money. I'm actually pretty sure it makes it work for other people.