can a natrual bodybuilder bench press 5 plates each side wihout steroids?

[RAWMEAT]

What types of gyms do most here go too?  Ive seen plenty of dudes bench over 400lbs!  And I've seen more than a handful bench 500lbs.   Maybe being form Texas I'm just used to seeing strongs mofos.  Or most here do not train at a hardcore gyms where all the meat heads train, ya'll  must train at a fitness gym.

[kwri298]

What types of gyms do most here go too?  Ive seen plenty of dudes bench over 400lbs!  And I've seen more than a handful bench 500lbs.   Maybe being form Texas I'm just used to seeing strongs mofos.  Or most here do not train at a hardcore gyms where all the meat heads train, ya'll  must train at a fitness gym.

I live in texas and I have not seen this, and I've worked out in alot of gyms in the area.  I have never seen anyone bench press 500lbs raw.  I highest I've seen anyone go is 405.  I'm normally the strongest bencher in the gym and I got 405 at 205, and I was juiced.  I think it is possible for a natural to do 500lbs but they are going to weigh alot, no 200 pound natual is going to do 500 raw.     

[onlyme]

What types of gyms do most here go too?  Ive seen plenty of dudes bench over 400lbs!  And I've seen more than a handful bench 500lbs.   Maybe being form Texas I'm just used to seeing strongs mofos.  Or most here do not train at a hardcore gyms where all the meat heads train, ya'll  must train at a fitness gym.

I have lifted in at least 200 different gyms in my life around the country and Asia and Mexico and no where have I ever seen more guys bench over 400 than in Hawaii.  I would go into a gym and bench 405 for reps and have the whole gym stop and watch when I traveled.  When I moved to Hawaii and did that no one would watch or even cared.  Once you get up to 500 then some people would at least watch.  I was 25 or so at 247 when I benched 500.  I was absolutely 10000% drug free.  I didn't do anything till 1986 and even then only for 6 months. 

Also, anyone here from Hawaii remember "Q".  This guy was a absolutely the best natural bencher I have ever seen.

[RAWMEAT]

Well I dont know what to say!  I have seen plenty do four plates and seen a few do 5bills.  Ive even went to a texted powerlifting meet and seen a guy bench 700lbs, it wasnt raw and he had a wide grip, so it made the press only like four inches, and he was about 300lbs but still it was impressive.  I saw that guy koncrete or Adrian bench 500lb raw at that meet as well.  So I believe it can be done, some people are just cock strong.

[Immortal_Technique]

I live in texas and I have not seen this, and I've worked out in alot of gyms in the area.  I have never seen anyone bench press 500lbs raw.  I highest I've seen anyone go is 405.  I'm normally the strongest bencher in the gym and I got 405 at 205, and I was juiced.  I think it is possible for a natural to do 500lbs but they are going to weigh alot, no 200 pound natual is going to do 500 raw.     

Best I've actually seen is 3 with 405 from a juiced guy, which I know isn't insane;y heavy.

But best I've seen fully natural is this mid 30s lecturer at my old University doing 440lb for a single. I definitley believe 500lbis possible natural, but it's a big deal.

[The Showstoppa]

Well I dont know what to say!  I have seen plenty do four plates and seen a few do 5bills.  Ive even went to a texted powerlifting meet and seen a guy bench 700lbs, it wasnt raw and he had a wide grip, so it made the press only like four inches, and he was about 300lbs but still it was impressive.  I saw that guy koncrete or Adrian bench 500lb raw at that meet as well.  So I believe it can be done, some people are just cock strong.

Tested doesn't mean anything.  The olympics are tested, do you think everybody is clean?

[rccs]

634 was not raw, however, I do believe he benched 535 raw, just like "the coach". But tested does not mean natural my friend.

Exactly.

[onlyme]

You guys need to know when they say a tested show that just means they test them for certain things.  And steroids is not one of them in most cases.  They may test for a steroid no one takes anymore or diuretics most of the time.