natural virginity gone

[obx4jeep]

I must say today was the day i lost my natural virginity to a beautiful gal by the name of cypionate.   March 11,2009 2:45 P.M.-This day will never be forgotten

[d0nny2600]

I must say today was the day i lost my natural virginity to a beautiful gal by the name of cypionate.   March 11,2009 2:45 P.M.-This day will never be forgotten

Meltdown

[Big_Tymer]

haha.  you should enjoy it.  as someone usually says on here, welcome to the darkside 

[MuscleMcMannus]

Biggest mistake of your life in all honesty, especially if you are 25 years old or less.  Steroids are not necessary for a majority of people who learn how to eat and train correctly.  I feel most guys who use steroids prematurely just make up for what they are lacking already in their training and diet.  If they would get their diet and training in order first, train hard and consistent for several years then do steroids they would be launched into another realm of development. 

[wes mantooth]

Biggest mistake of your life in all honesty, especially if you are 25 years old or less.  Steroids are not necessary for a majority of people who learn how to eat and train correctly.  I feel most guys who use steroids prematurely just make up for what they are lacking already in their training and diet.  If they would get their diet and training in order first, train hard and consistent for several years then do steroids they would be launched into another realm of development. 

biggest mistake of his life?


get a grip dude. how the hell do you know if his diet is locked on or not....or what hes lacking? keep your preaching to some other thread....and quit pissin' on the guys parade for christs sake

[tbombz]

biggest mistake of his life?


get a grip dude. how the hell do you know if his diet is locked on or not....or what hes lacking? keep your preaching to some other thread....and quit pissin' on the guys parade for christs sake

to top it all off, mcmannus uses gear himself.

[brent2741]

Biggest mistake of your life in all honesty, especially if you are 25 years old or less.  Steroids are not necessary for a majority of people who learn how to eat and train correctly.  I feel most guys who use steroids prematurely just make up for what they are lacking already in their training and diet.  If they would get their diet and training in order first, train hard and consistent for several years then do steroids they would be launched into another realm of development. 

steroids are like rainbows and candy canes, just enjoy them every once in a while and your life will be great

[MuscleMcMannus]

biggest mistake of his life?


get a grip dude. how the hell do you know if his diet is locked on or not....or what hes lacking? keep your preaching to some other thread....and quit pissin' on the guys parade for christs sake

I'm ASSUMING this guy is in his 20's.  If not than I stand corrected.  But 99% of guys have not come close to reaching their genetic potential.  It takes years and years to build muscle.  I just think a lot of guys jump the steroid gun prematurely.  I did and I'll admit that.  Whether or not I use now makes no difference tbombz.  You're a perfect example of a typical young dumb know it all that thinks he's ready for steroids when you've barely even been training for any significant amount of time.   

[obx4jeep]

To clear things up I am 21 and just started using gear. Been training ever since an 8th grader in middle school. As far as dieting goes, I've been writing up diets for people at my gym, friends, and even family. Gave up alot in high school to be able to train hard and eat like a horse. I would get up at 530 every morning, go to the gym, do cardio, get back home to cook all my meals for the day, and then head to school. After school, I'd lift and play ball and do homework. I'd have to brag that I gained 30 lbs. all naturally in six months and went from a bench of 315 to 405 as a 19 year old at 215 lbs. All I'm trying to say is that I'm not dumb, I've thought long and hard about using gear, and I think, I've gotten enough experience where I think I will be fine doing it.

[MuscleMcMannus]

To clear things up I am 21 and just started using gear. Been training ever since an 8th grader in middle school. As far as dieting goes, I've been writing up diets for people at my gym, friends, and even family. Gave up alot in high school to be able to train hard and eat like a horse. I would get up at 530 every morning, go to the gym, do cardio, get back home to cook all my meals for the day, and then head to school. After school, I'd lift and play ball and do homework. I'd have to brag that I gained 30 lbs. all naturally in six months and went from a bench of 315 to 405 as a 19 year old at 215 lbs. All I'm trying to say is that I'm not dumb, I've thought long and hard about using gear, and I think, I've gotten enough experience where I think I will be fine doing it.

LOL I knew you were a young guy.  Never meant to imply that you're dumb.  Just that there is no way in hell you've reached any ceiling as far as your training and gains.  Bottomline is you're better off using steroids later on down the road for a host of reasons. 

[obx4jeep]

I know you're not brother, you're straight and you are probably right i might could add another 5-15 lbs naturally in my life. But why take all that hard work, when if being safe on this stuff, you can gain an astronomical amount of muscle? Do you think jay cutler, lee priest, and dennis wolf to name a few waited until their mid 20's to start using gear?

[MuscleMcMannus]

I know you're not brother, you're straight and you are probably right i might could add another 5-15 lbs naturally in my life. But why take all that hard work, when if being safe on this stuff, you can gain an astronomical amount of muscle? Do you think jay cutler, lee priest, and dennis wolf to name a few waited until their mid 20's to start using gear?

No but if you don't think Cutler, Priest, and Wolf aren't suffering serious health problems due to their excessive drug use even at their age now you're nuts!  Those guys are going to be very unhealthy 50 and 60 year olds.  Do you have the genetics to be a Cutler or Wolf?  All I'm saying is roids will burn your body out and you'll turn into a yo yo roider who becomes reliant on the drugs.  It's as much psychological as it is anything else.  Trust me you'll understand after you've been cycling on and off for the next 5 years.  There's no such thing as just one cycle here and there.  You're not going to gain an astronomical amount of muscle either bro trust me.  Roids aren't the magic pill.  And you could easily gain another 30-40lbs naturally over the next 5-10 years with hardwork, training and proper nutrition you're only 21.  Oh well good luck with your goals! 

[jon cole]

your life will never gonna be the same now, an invisible link is connecting you to all other roider...

[powerbar]

Obx4jeep wasn't going to add 30-40lbs of muscle in the next 5-10 years.  I'd assume if the guy is doing everything he can he'd have 3-4 years of decent improvements left. 

[4thAD]

eh.. it doesn't matter. once he's *on* thats it. I dont see why anyone cant use moderate dosages and then transition directly into hrt when they hit mid 30's...

lots of people do it and their health is just fine... a few more natural pounds are irrelevant anyway.

these hormones can be properly used and are damn near harmless for a lot of people.

some of the best builds I know are guys who started juice in their TEENS... these guys are older now and they're fine.

just know that when you start - you're in the game for the long haul.. you guys are making it sound like its the end of the world - its not.

some even find it IMPROVES their life in a variety of ways... all - the - way - into older age.

stop the nonsense.

now that said - I agree with the guy who suggested not even starting until later... for people who simply want to be in shape they should wait until their natural test falls to lower levels. then they can jump in when they hit their 30's with test and keep right on trucking.

but.. for the man who wants to be *enhanced*... just juice... and know its going to be long term. I wouldn't even think in *cycles*.. I would just plan to be on. it will go much smoother that way.. and despite what some of these people think - if you do it sensibly - your health will be just fine

Agreed completely!

[4thAD]

ah see? great minds do think alike 

Haha and great minds can actually get along!