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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2009, 08:58:24 PM »
If Robbie had peaked properly for any of the Olympias between 1977-1979, like his awesome condition at the 1978 Night of the Champions, the judges would not have been able to deny him the Olympia. But because he was always a little off at the "O", they could justify the smaller Zane with the win.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2009, 08:58:58 PM »
But did he let a Cheetah penetrate him?

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2009, 09:01:05 PM »
Is there any truth in the story that he let a cheetah have sex with him for the Weiders amusement??
If it is true   I am going to sue the fffffffffffkkk out of Joe!!!!
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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2009, 09:02:18 PM »
Jimmy Thomson said it was true,he also said Franco Columbo dressed up as a schoolboy and danced for the Weiders,seriously

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2009, 09:03:23 PM »
Jimmy Thomson said it was true,he also said Franco Columbo dressed up as a schoolboy and danced for the Weiders,seriously
But like the Gov. said  "Franco's a child"
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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2009, 10:24:16 PM »
Is there any truth in the story that he let a cheetah have sex with him for the Weiders amusement??

He wouldn't have a asshole if that happened, You know the reason why female cat's scream, and why lioness, get very pissed....You would too if someone had a a dick with long spines that pointed down, and shoved it up your...

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2009, 10:30:53 PM »
If Robbie had peaked properly for any of the Olympias between 1977-1979, like his awesome condition at the 1978 Night of the Champions, the judges would not have been able to deny him the Olympia. But because he was always a little off at the "O", they could justify the smaller Zane with the win.

That's the the stock in the box propoganda that's held up surprisingly well over the years, unquestioned by many. Robinson was off in '77 but while he'd been sharper in other shows both he and Callender were in as good or better shape than Zane in '78, and of course were far bigger.

It's remarkable given some of the absurd decisions over the years that the contest had any integrity left by the mid-80s. That it did was quite the accomplishment. Most on getbig still assume that the shows are entirely fair, a remarkable feat by the IFBB.

The contest is quite clearly fixed some years, akin to pro wrestling. Did not have anyone other than a white winner for most of the first two decades, excepting Oliva and Dickerson. This is not a coincidence. The Columbu wins, Schwarzenegger in 80, Zane winning all three years were standouts when it comes to bald injustice, so much so that Weider lost a large contingent of the IFBB's best BBs in the late 70s/early 80s to defection or retirement.

Video doesn't lie.

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme
 

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2009, 07:39:31 AM »
imagine if Robbie would have one every show that he should have!  he would have a pretty incredible number of wins.  including Mr. Olympia.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2009, 10:04:19 AM »
Back is half the body, hope this helps.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2009, 10:57:50 AM »
That's the the stock in the box propoganda that's held up surprisingly well over the years, unquestioned by many. Robinson was off in '77 but while he'd been sharper in other shows both he and Callender were in as good or better shape than Zane in '78, and of course were far bigger.

It's remarkable given some of the absurd decisions over the years that the contest had any integrity left by the mid-80s. That it did was quite the accomplishment. Most on getbig still assume that the shows are entirely fair, a remarkable feat by the IFBB.

The contest is quite clearly fixed some years, akin to pro wrestling. Did not have anyone other than a white winner for most of the first two decades, excepting Oliva and Dickerson. This is not a coincidence. The Columbu wins, Schwarzenegger in 80, Zane winning all three years were standouts when it comes to bald injustice, so much so that Weider lost a large contingent of the IFBB's best BBs in the late 70s/early 80s to defection or retirement.

Video doesn't lie.

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme
 
Well, I was at all three of the Olympias Zane won. I was only about 15-16 at the time so I won't claim I was a great judge at that point. Juging back then was different than it is now. The guy, in the best condition with the least amount of flaws won the show. For example, if shows were judged like today,(where the bigger guy usually wins even if he's worse than the smaller guy) Samir Bannout would have lost to 5th placer Bertil Fox at the 83 O.  The Columbu 81 decision and Dickerson in 82 were more debatable to me than Zane. Robbie wasn't even close in 79. He was small and flat and only weighed 193 pounds. Mentzer was the big challenge that year. Mentzer was a lot bigger, but Zane looked really good in 79 and had a lot more refinement, seperation, etc. Anyone who saw 77 can tell you Robbie was holding water. 78 was closer, but when things are close Zane had the advantage with his stage presence, every muscle totaly presented well during prejudging, more charisma. These things added up. I don't think it was a blatant fix at all. Nor do any of the magazines back then seem to claim that either.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2009, 11:50:28 AM »
Robbie really did not hit his peak until the mid 80's, very good in 87 ;D
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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2009, 12:28:07 PM »
Man, what an awesome physique.  I only wish
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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2009, 12:58:34 PM »
Well, I was at all three of the Olympias Zane won. I was only about 15-16 at the time so I won't claim I was a great judge at that point. Juging back then was different than it is now. The guy, in the best condition with the least amount of flaws won the show. For example, if shows were judged like today,(where the bigger guy usually wins even if he's worse than the smaller guy) Samir Bannout would have lost to 5th placer Bertil Fox at the 83 O.  The Columbu 81 decision and Dickerson in 82 were more debatable to me than Zane. Robbie wasn't even close in 79. He was small and flat and only weighed 193 pounds. Mentzer was the big challenge that year. Mentzer was a lot bigger, but Zane looked really good in 79 and had a lot more refinement, seperation, etc. Anyone who saw 77 can tell you Robbie was holding water. 78 was closer, but when things are close Zane had the advantage with his stage presence, every muscle totaly presented well during prejudging, more charisma. These things added up. I don't think it was a blatant fix at all. Nor do any of the magazines back then seem to claim that either.

It's valid to excuse some of the close ones, but not some of the others like '81. Once there's one bald example then anything's possible. I saw Robby backstage as well. He and Callendar in '78 were as or more cut than Zane, and far bigger onstage, which is what counts. The "stage presence" is a good name for intangibles that are simply opinion. Robinson's condition in 'the late 70s, always the crux of the excuses as to why he didn't win during that time, don't hold up in '78, period.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2009, 01:16:00 PM »
Well, I was at all three of the Olympias Zane won. I was only about 15-16 at the time so I won't claim I was a great judge at that point. Juging back then was different than it is now. The guy, in the best condition with the least amount of flaws won the show. For example, if shows were judged like today,(where the bigger guy usually wins even if he's worse than the smaller guy) Samir Bannout would have lost to 5th placer Bertil Fox at the 83 O.  The Columbu 81 decision and Dickerson in 82 were more debatable to me than Zane. Robbie wasn't even close in 79. He was small and flat and only weighed 193 pounds. Mentzer was the big challenge that year. Mentzer was a lot bigger, but Zane looked really good in 79 and had a lot more refinement, seperation, etc. Anyone who saw 77 can tell you Robbie was holding water. 78 was closer, but when things are close Zane had the advantage with his stage presence, every muscle totaly presented well during prejudging, more charisma. These things added up. I don't think it was a blatant fix at all. Nor do any of the magazines back then seem to claim that either.

Great post ! don't try and convince that moron of any different he has it in his mind anytime a white guy beats a black guy it's racism , ALL of his opinions are based on this premise the cold hard fact remains conditioning was one of Robbies main problems in the 70s and it was one of Zane's strengths which is part of the reason Robby lost.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2009, 01:25:53 PM »
Great post ! don't try and convince that moron of any different he has it in his mind anytime a white guy beats a black guy it's racism , ALL of his opinions are based on this premise the cold hard fact remains conditioning was one of Robbies main problems in the 70s and it was one of Zane's strengths which is part of the reason Robby lost.

This IFBB shill always stoops to trolling and personal attacks out of desperation, in order to deflect from an inability to explain shows like '81. Thereby unintentionally reinforcing my point lol what a genius. She's actually created a long thread on IA trying to come up with viable explanations, and can't. ;D

Also unable to refute the condition angle in '78.

Thanx for playing.

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2009, 01:59:42 PM »
That's the the stock in the box propoganda that's held up surprisingly well over the years, unquestioned by many. Robinson was off in '77 but while he'd been sharper in other shows both he and Callender were in as good or better shape than Zane in '78, and of course were far bigger.

It's remarkable given some of the absurd decisions over the years that the contest had any integrity left by the mid-80s. That it did was quite the accomplishment. Most on getbig still assume that the shows are entirely fair, a remarkable feat by the IFBB.

The contest is quite clearly fixed some years, akin to pro wrestling. Did not have anyone other than a white winner for most of the first two decades, excepting Oliva and Dickerson. This is not a coincidence. The Columbu wins, Schwarzenegger in 80, Zane winning all three years were standouts when it comes to bald injustice, so much so that Weider lost a large contingent of the IFBB's best BBs in the late 70s/early 80s to defection or retirement.

Video doesn't lie.

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme
 

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That's the the stock in the box propoganda that's held up surprisingly well over the years, unquestioned by many. Robinson was off in '77 but while he'd been sharper in other shows both he and Callender were in as good or better shape than Zane in '78, and of course were far bigger.

oooooohhhhh pumpster figured out the conspiracy theory and his here to preach the gospel  ::) thanks for uncovered the Weider plot and sharing it with the masses 30 years later. both Roy and Robby were both bigger than Zane true , better conditioned? nonsense. Zane raised the bar in the 1970s for that super-ripped look a feat which few at the time could match , couple that with his outstanding posing ability and the fact that when he posed he looked much heavier than he was , Robby himself commented on this fact , he said backstage Zane looked very unassuming , small until he hit a shot and everything exploded and he appeared much larger than he really was

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It's remarkable given some of the absurd decisions over the years that the contest had any integrity left by the mid-80s. That it did was quite the accomplishment. Most on getbig still assume that the shows are entirely fair, a remarkable feat by the IFBB.

NO shows are not fair they're all fixed , they pulled the wool over our eyes and you're the only one who figured it out  ::)

1975 IFBB Mr America - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1975 IFBB Mr World - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1976 IFBB Mr International - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1976 IFBB Universe - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1978 IFBB Night of the Champions - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1978 IFBB Professional World Cup - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1979 IFBB Night of the Champions - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1979 IFBB Pittsburgh Pro Invitational  - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1988 IFBB Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1989 IFBB World Pro Championships - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1991 IFBB Musclefest Grand Prix - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed
1994 IFBB Masters Olympia - winner Robby Robinson - this contest was fixed

You claim contests are fixed then everyone of Robbie's wins in the IFBB were also fixed in his favor , you can't have it both ways and what's your excuse for when he left the IFBB and competed in NABBA and WABBA ? he won 1 show out of three and lost the other 2 , sounds like it wasn't the IFBB it seems his placings are hit or miss just like in the IFBB and you can't blame the Weiders for that , they had not ' control '

Robby did very well in the IFBB just because he couldn't pull it together for the big one don't blame whitey



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The contest is quite clearly fixed some years, akin to pro wrestling. Did not have anyone other than a white winner for most of the first two decades, excepting Oliva and Dickerson. This is not a coincidence. The Columbu wins, Schwarzenegger in 80, Zane winning all three years were standouts when it comes to bald injustice, so much so that Weider lost a large contingent of the IFBB's best BBs in the late 70s/early 80s to defection or retirement.

Again I've posed this to you before and as usual you can't offer up a cognizant retort , as usual you offer up conspiracy theories , if it was race-based Sergio would have never beaten Arnold in 1969 , Zane would have beaten Dickerson in 82 , Haney would have never won in 84 and lost to Yates in 1991  , you cry racism whenever a white guy beats your ebony heros it's typical default position of a biased moron


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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2009, 02:04:28 PM »
This IFBB shill always stoops to trolling and personal attacks out of desperation, in order to deflect from an inability to explain shows like '81. Thereby unintentionally reinforcing my point lol what a genius. She's actually created a long thread on IA trying to come up with viable explanations, and can't. ;D

Also unable to refute the condition angle in '78.

Thanx for playing.

Carry on with several backpeddling posts that will amount to nothing. :D Next

Again I don't have to explain contests like 1981 YOU do  ;) it's the position on YOU to prove it's fixed and to further shine a flashlight on your bias you're the complete moron who claimed that Ronnie Coleman ' dominated ' the 2001 Mr Olympia yet he lost the whole prejudging , it all goes back to your bias , contests are only fixed when your black heros lose , whenever they win there was NO fix lmfao great logic.

1981 was fixed , yet 2001 was spot-on and so much so he didn't actually lose the whole prejudging in fact he dominated the contest LMFAO and yet I don't claim 2001 is fixed in any way because , I wasn't there and I'm not biased like you  ;)

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Re: Robby Robinson Tribute....
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2009, 02:18:16 PM »
It's valid to excuse some of the close ones, but not some of the others like '81. Once there's one bald example then anything's possible. I saw Robby backstage as well. He and Callendar in '78 were as or more cut than Zane, and far bigger onstage, which is what counts. The "stage presence" is a good name for intangibles that are simply opinion. Robinson's condition in 'the late 70s, always the crux of the excuses as to why he didn't win during that time, don't hold up in '78, period.

Ha ha ha ha now you're claiming you seen Robby back stage , bullshit this is the first time you ever claimed this despite the fact its not the first time you've commented on this topic ...ha ha ha ha ha Robby was more cut because you seen him lol and what would you know about physique assessment even entertaining it was true? you're the dope who claimed Ronnie dominated in 2001 despite losing the whole prejudging and that Branch Warrens calves aren't much better than Vic Martinez , again what the hell do you know?