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newbie cycle?
« on: January 29, 2009, 03:32:01 PM »
where can i fined some good newbie cycle info ,i can get almost al lgear with no problem,but don't know what to take and how much..i am 25, 200lbs and 6".

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 03:48:47 PM »
"what you take and how much you take"

 depends on

what you want to do with your body,
how much you want to spend $,
how hard and often you workout,
the quantity and quality of your diet. 

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 03:57:16 PM »
$$$ no problem
i want 30lbs if its possible
train 5 x a day with my friend.

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 03:59:50 PM »
where can i fined some good newbie cycle info ,i can get almost al lgear with no problem,but don't know what to take and how much..i am 25, 200lbs and 6".

xeo

How about starting with the "newbie" Stickey above and there is always the good ol' "SEARCH" function in the upper right corner.

Always good places to start  ;)

Educate yourself a bit more before jumping into AAS brother

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 04:02:24 PM »
train already 7years! fuck i see my friends use gear and they are every day bigger and stronger..one got 27lbs in 10 weeks....is it possible?

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 04:03:23 PM »
cool. always nice to give advice to someone who doesnt have to worry about finances.


well, gains from steroids are not permanent. you wont be able to gain 30 lbs and keep them.  in fact, unless you use a large amount of steroids for a long period of time, your probably wont gain 30 lbs of real muscle even with steroids. youll gain 30lbs- thats for sure, but including alot of water and fat and glycogen.

now, gains from other things can be much more permanent. growth hormone, for example, actually creates totally new muscle cells. so you dont lose those.


if you want to use steroids =
would you like to do one never ending cycle, a few cycles a year, a one time cycle?


if you want to use gh =
youll run this for an extended period of times, abotu 6 months, and youll use several iu per day. im not personally experienced with gh, but i know the comon doseage when trying to put on size, is about 10-15 iu per day.

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 04:14:08 PM »
yes i think to do 2-3 cycles a year.
yes i read for hgh and i want to take it too!
i read you can lost 10-30%gains after cycle too! or only 5% if you do it right.

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 05:09:51 PM »
yes i think to do 2-3 cycles a year.
yes i read for hgh and i want to take it too!
i read you can lost 10-30%gains after cycle too!

okay, now lets say you want to do 3 cycles a year.   

you can do three 12 weeks cycles with 7 weeks off in between each.  that will be a full year. 


now, what steroid you use depends. testosterone is probably the best steroid.  when using testosterone, you gain alot of muscle, but you get bloated too. this is because it converts into estrogen. the best steroids for mass all convert into estrogen (and thats why they are the best). 
testosterone is also one of the cheapest steroids as well. and one of the healthiest. its the male sex hormone - its natural to your body.

so the point is that - testosterone is most likely the steroid you want to use. probably in every cycle, and probably the only thing you use or a while.


now, other steroids are great too, trenbolone is probably the most "powerful steroid", keeps you lean, doesnt bloat you, and makes you very aggressive in the gym as well.  dbol is a cheap steroid that works very well for mass and allows for extra steroid without extra injections.


the dose you want to use is usually refered to as "mg per week".  take the toal mg you inject into your body each week, and thats your "mg per week". test is usually run at 500mg per week for a beginner cycle.  you can do more or less, and expect results to be directly correspondent to how much more or less you use. 


injectable steroids- testsoterone being the one we are talking about- come in different "esters". the ester is what alloows it be be active in your body for a while. if you inject testsosterone with no ester ("testsosterone suspension"), then its only going to be working for about one day. there are a few common esters. prop, enanthane, cypionate, deconate. prop is supposed to be good for a few days. cyp and enanthate and deconate are all suposed to be good for a week to two weeks.  but, esters vary in release times and to play it safe, it alwasy best to inject as frequently as possible (that does not mean you have t use more steroid than if you were to inject less frrequently, just adjust injection volume to account for added injections. example = if you go from injecting 250mg twice a week, to injecting 4 times a week, then inject 125mg per injection.)



during your off period, youll want to use some "post cycle therapy" drugs, which get your testicals and pituatary gland back up and running.  some hcg at 500iu every third day for two weeks, along side some clomid at 50mg per day for 4-5 weeks.  that should be suffficient, but others may have some more input on this matter.
 

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 10:10:30 PM »
    tbombz are you shittin me right now wasting you time giving this douche bag advice.  This is fucking 

stevekg at it again asking dumbass questions with a Asia Pharma plug.


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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2009, 01:13:11 AM »
what stevekg DRDOOM you talking? big big thanks tbombz,you are the best.

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 09:22:20 PM »
Yea tbombz I'm reading this and am learning allot.  Appreciate the time you put into explaining it all.

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2009, 06:47:59 AM »
no problem xerot andgame time...i wrote that up rather quickly, so if you have any questions, feel free to enquire

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 09:53:57 AM »
Not wasted time at all, Im learning too. Very good post.

Thanks Tbombz

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 11:39:49 PM »
where can i fined some good newbie cycle info ,i can get almost al lgear with no problem,but don't know what to take and how much..i am 25, 200lbs and 6".

xeo

Do you realize how many newbies there are who have asked this very question?

Read the forum and search........and pull a "tbombz" and use google as well.

Use your common sense and intelligence when making decisions and don't take anyone's word for gospel.



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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 09:25:45 PM »
i dont pay that much attentio to see that connection...but even if i is...i like writing about this stuff.. so i dont min.. and i dont think what i wrote is wasted...becasue other guys migh read this with no clue and theyll get some decent basic info without any nonsense
I'm a perfect example of that guy who reads this and gets good info from it. Thanks tbombz, good stuff. :D

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 09:33:15 PM »
cool. always nice to give advice to someone who doesnt have to worry about finances.


well, gains from steroids are not permanent. you wont be able to gain 30 lbs and keep them.  in fact, unless you use a large amount of steroids for a long period of time, your probably wont gain 30 lbs of real muscle even with steroids. youll gain 30lbs- thats for sure, but including alot of water and fat and glycogen.

now, gains from other things can be much more permanent. growth hormone, for example, actually creates totally new muscle cells. so you dont lose those.


if you want to use steroids =
would you like to do one never ending cycle, a few cycles a year, a one time cycle?


if you want to use gh =
youll run this for an extended period of times, abotu 6 months, and youll use several iu per day. im not personally experienced with gh, but i know the comon doseage when trying to put on size, is about 10-15 iu per day.
i think in theory if you take steroids before your body has come to the CAP of how much muscle you can gain that you will keep most of the muscle other then the image of larger muscle that the water makes that is what you will lose once you pass the limit due to sterids then you will lose all of that

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Re: newbie cycle?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 09:36:40 PM »
and yes you should read the newbie sticky and when you come up with a recipe then post what youll take and everyone will refine it for you for the safest and best that you can do