Here's what you get with private/for profit Health Insurance

[Straw Man]

you simplify it to much but sure you pretty much got it.

ok, so I "pretty much" understand where you're coming from

here's the next question

why should I assume you are correct in your prediction?

at best you have to admit you're guessing

why should I give a shit about your guess?

what am I wagering

what is my potential gain/loss

you seem to suggest that my only option if I don't agree with you is

to lose

let's pretend I somehow agree with you

what should I do now?

[tonymctones]

ok, so I "pretty much" understand where you're coming from

here's the next question

why should I assume you are correct in your prediction?

at best you have to admit you're guessing

why should I give a shit about your guess?

what am I wagering

what is my potential gain/loss

you seem to suggest that my only option if I don't agree with you is

to lose

let's pretend I somehow agree with you

what should I do now?

lets continue in the morning brotha i gotta get to bed

[tonymctones]

ok, so I "pretty much" understand where you're coming from

here's the next question

why should I assume you are correct in your prediction?

at best you have to admit you're guessing

why should I give a shit about your guess?

what am I wagering

what is my potential gain/loss

you seem to suggest that my only option if I don't agree with you is

to lose

let's pretend I somehow agree with you

what should I do now?

first straw you have to realize and i know you dont like this but the odds are highly in the favor of this program running in the red...just about every govt program does especially the larger ones look at social security, medicaid, medicare etc...Its also not just about operating in the red its about it being able and willing to operate in the black with little profit. if you believe otherwise please tell me why you believe this will be one of the extreme few cases where they operate in the black?

If it does operate in the red or even slightly in the black, how will companies that MUST make a profit compete? you still have never answer this and neither has obama...his rhetoric is it will cause them to be more competitive  how exactly? by cutting costs obviously, but it what those cuts mean they mean a drop in coverage, cut corners etc...why would the govt keep up with costly service when they dont have to? again its a business remember?

Ill be honest straw you dont have to give a shit if im right or not but dont get on here and think this is the right way or this is the only way...Its certainly not even though obama would have you believe it is.

Like shoot said yesterday in your thread regulate the industry a little bit, get rid of not treating pre existing conditions, not treating conditions etc...punish ppl who sue frivalously...

Ive said this time and time again acting simply for the sake of acting is idiotic that got us the iraq war, that got us the stimulus bill.

what makes you think this will work straw? how can a private company compete with the govt that doesnt need to make a profit? Is it more about the health coverage or the money?

[Soul Crusher]

first straw you have to realize and i know you dont like this but the odds are highly in the favor of this program running in the red...just about every govt program does especially the larger ones look at social security, medicaid, medicare etc...Its also not just about operating in the red its about it being able and willing to operate in the black with little profit. if you believe otherwise please tell me why you believe this will be one of the extreme few cases where they operate in the black?

If it does operate in the red or even slightly in the black, how will companies that MUST make a profit compete? you still have never answer this and neither has obama...his rhetoric is it will cause them to be more competitive  how exactly? by cutting costs obviously, but it what those cuts mean they mean a drop in coverage, cut corners etc...why would the govt keep up with costly service when they dont have to? again its a business remember?

Ill be honest straw you dont have to give a shit if im right or not but dont get on here and think this is the right way or this is the only way...Its certainly not even though obama would have you believe it is.

Like shoot said yesterday in your thread regulate the industry a little bit, get rid of not treating pre existing conditions, not treating conditions etc...punish ppl who sue frivalously...

Ive said this time and time again acting simply for the sake of acting is idiotic that got us the iraq war, that got us the stimulus bill.

what makes you think this will work straw? how can a private company compete with the govt that doesnt need to make a profit? Is it more about the health coverage or the money?

Here is what you get with Public Insurance:

Obama Refuses to Pledge He'd Accept Health Care Plan Limits On *His Own* Family
ABC ^

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:46:24 AM by quesney

Elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick, they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it's not provided by insurance.

Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if "it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.


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