Fucked up California Serie: Joe Legal and Jose Illegal life styles.

[Alex23]

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
productive for the State of California...

You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.


"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....

"Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".


Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00


Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year.
Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00


Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month, or $12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00


Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


Joe Legal makes too much money so he is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare,
Joe Legal pays for food, $1,000.00 per month or $12,000.00 per year. 
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00


Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month, 12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole, minus (-) $4,769.00


Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month, $6,000.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00


Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

[Alex23]

I'm trying to remember. Ah, yes, California is the state that is in serious financial difficulty.

This didn't calculate how much the state lost in taxes, how much it paid for the ESL program, how much the school lunches cost the state, the federal is out $500 a month for rent, or $6,000 a year, there is the $12,000 for food from Federal food stamps, who knows what the dental and health care expenses are, but let's be generous and say it's not for $1,000 a year for everyone, but if Joe Illegal went to the hospital, the hospital absorbs the costs. That ladies and gentlemen is ONE family.

Multiply that by thousands and one can see why there is a money drain by Joe Illegal

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
productive for the State of California...

You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.


"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....

"Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".


Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00


Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year.
Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00


Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month, or $12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00


Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


Joe Legal makes too much money so he is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare,
Joe Legal pays for food, $1,000.00 per month or $12,000.00 per year. 
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00


Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month, 12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole, minus (-) $4,769.00


Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month, $6,000.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00


Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Well put.  And yet Obama wants to let these illegals keep flying under the radar with no repercussions.  This country's "open door" policy on illegals fucking disgusts me.

[Hereford]

I'm trying to remember. Ah, yes, California is the state that is in serious financial difficulty.

This didn't calculate how much the state lost in taxes, how much it paid for the ESL program, how much the school lunches cost the state, the federal is out $500 a month for rent, or $6,000 a year, there is the $12,000 for food from Federal food stamps, who knows what the dental and health care expenses are, but let's be generous and say it's not for $1,000 a year for everyone, but if Joe Illegal went to the hospital, the hospital absorbs the costs. That ladies and gentlemen is ONE family.

Multiply that by thousands and one can see why there is a money drain by Joe Illegal

Ya... No. The hospital forces those costs onto the ones who actually pay and the insurance companies..... who in turn, force the costs onto the ones who allways pay in the end.

California could solve half of its financial problem overnight by cutting off the social leaches.

[DK II]

Ya... No. The hospital forces those costs onto the ones who actually pay and the insurance companies..... who in turn, force the costs onto the ones who allways pay in the end.

California could solve half of its financial problem overnight by cutting off the social leaches.

Spot on.

It's the same with people on welfare in germany.

They pay no taxes nothing, and have all their money to spend. If they fuck up even worse, the working people have to pay more.

[Hereford]

I love being at the market, and seeing someone pay with food stamps... then getting into a late model SUV with custom rims out in the parking lot.

Happens every day around here.

[The Wizard of Truth]

Immigrants shouldnt get handouts
Why the fuck should they?

[Deicide]

Spot on.

It's the same with people on welfare in germany.

They pay no taxes nothing, and have all their money to spend. If they fuck up even worse, the working people have to pay more.

No welfare and auch kein Kindergeld!

[Campeon Del Mundo]

oh man don't get me going on this immigration stuff...it really makes steam come out of my ears...

   All the problems Cal is facing right now is due to immigration legal and illegal.  The idea is simple, the more people you have, wages go down.  America is going to have to draw the line between who's an American and who's not.

[emn1964]

I love being at the market, and seeing someone pay with food stamps... then getting into a late model SUV with custom rims out in the parking lot.

Happens every day around here.

and what color skin do they have Hereford?

[Hereford]

and what color skin do they have Hereford?

The ones with the custom rims will tend towards having a darker complexion.

[emn1964]

The ones with the custom rims will tend towards having a darker complexion.

Hereford:  are they tan white people or latinos or blacks?

[Deicide]

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
productive for the State of California...

You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.


"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....

"Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".


Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00


Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year.
Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00


Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month, or $12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00


Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


Joe Legal makes too much money so he is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare,
Joe Legal pays for food, $1,000.00 per month or $12,000.00 per year. 
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00


Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00


Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month, 12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole, minus (-) $4,769.00


Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month, $6,000.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00


Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.