Adonis diet protein amt supported by science?

[Bast175]

Testosterone level declines with excess protein...


'Research suggests that eating a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet can cramp your testosterone levels. High amounts of dietary protein in your blood can eventually lower the amount of testosterone produced in your testes, says Incledon, who observed this relationship in a Penn State study of 12 healthy, athletic men.

Your protein intake should be about 16 percent of your daily calories, Incledon says. So, if you're the average 170-pound man who eats 2,900 calories a day, you should eat about 140 grams of protein daily, which is about the amount in two chicken breasts and a 6-ounce can of tuna.'

source: http://hormonefaqs.com/



'Protein Needs for Guys Not on Drugs

Notice that this section specifies "guys not on drugs." People make the mistake of following a diet that Mr. Famous Bodybuilder uses under the false assumption that it'll work for them, as well. A guy who isn't taking steroids, growth hormone, or whatever other growth-promoting agent that's hot this week has very different protein needs than the same guy taking all of these agents. They are totally different situations and must be addressed separately.

Research studies on male subjects who lifted weights and didn't take any drugs clearly showed that men need more than the RDA of 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight (0.8 g/kg).(1,2) In one study using novice bodybuilders, 1.35 g/kg (or 0.61 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight) was just as good as 2.62 g/kg.(1) In another study, it was found that strength-trained men need more protein than their sedentary counterparts.(2) These particular researchers recommended 1.76 g/kg per day (0.8 g/pound per day) for strength-trained men.

Still, using our 200-pound guy for an example, strict use of the research means that he should take in 160 grams of protein per day. Some guys may decide that they want to take more protein because they don't want to bother with the math and will use one gram of protein per pound. I don't see a problem with this, other than the fact that it's not necessary.'

source: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_mass/the_getbig_diet_for_bodybuilders&cr=

http://books.google.com/books?id=X7SUYYyU0D4C&pg=RA3-PA284&lpg=RA3-PA284&dq=dr.+incledon+protein&source=bl&ots=u14mQyF72O&sig=Sa6J8reAICil-tbdMoWelyl7wm4&hl=en&ei=79FZSrKVKJHYtgOt7PiDCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4

[Bast175]

'you should eat about 140 grams of protein daily, which is about the amount in two chicken breasts and a 6-ounce can of tuna.'


this line is bullshit though.   That would be around 90g protein, unless those breasts are huge.

[Mars]

protein is overrated anyway.

[WillGrant]

protein is overrated anyway.

post some "pink" bits

[Mars]

[Mars]

[WillGrant]

Wow..id eat that 2nd ones ass like no tomorrow :p

[Mr Nobody]

Wow..id eat that 2nd ones ass like no tomorrow :p

X2

[Pete Nice]

X3

[Marty Champions]

i sure wish i wouldnt go to time out if i posted some fine ass hoes

[Marty Champions]

Testosterone level declines with excess protein...


'Research suggests that eating a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet can cramp your testosterone levels. High amounts of dietary protein in your blood can eventually lower the amount of testosterone produced in your testes, says Incledon, who observed this relationship in a Penn State study of 12 healthy, athletic men.

Your protein intake should be about 16 percent of your daily calories, Incledon says. So, if you're the average 170-pound man who eats 2,900 calories a day, you should eat about 140 grams of protein daily, which is about the amount in two chicken breasts and a 6-ounce can of tuna.'

source: http://hormonefaqs.com/



'Protein Needs for Guys Not on Drugs

Notice that this section specifies "guys not on drugs." People make the mistake of following a diet that Mr. Famous Bodybuilder uses under the false assumption that it'll work for them, as well. A guy who isn't taking steroids, growth hormone, or whatever other growth-promoting agent that's hot this week has very different protein needs than the same guy taking all of these agents. They are totally different situations and must be addressed separately.

Research studies on male subjects who lifted weights and didn't take any drugs clearly showed that men need more than the RDA of 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight (0.8 g/kg).(1,2) In one study using novice bodybuilders, 1.35 g/kg (or 0.61 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight) was just as good as 2.62 g/kg.(1) In another study, it was found that strength-trained men need more protein than their sedentary counterparts.(2) These particular researchers recommended 1.76 g/kg per day (0.8 g/pound per day) for strength-trained men.

Still, using our 200-pound guy for an example, strict use of the research means that he should take in 160 grams of protein per day. Some guys may decide that they want to take more protein because they don't want to bother with the math and will use one gram of protein per pound. I don't see a problem with this, other than the fact that it's not necessary.'

source: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_mass/the_getbig_diet_for_bodybuilders&cr=

http://books.google.com/books?id=X7SUYYyU0D4C&pg=RA3-PA284&lpg=RA3-PA284&dq=dr.+incledon+protein&source=bl&ots=u14mQyF72O&sig=Sa6J8reAICil-tbdMoWelyl7wm4&hl=en&ei=79FZSrKVKJHYtgOt7PiDCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4

so since i weigh 225 how much protien do you reccomend?

[Bast175]

so since i weigh 225 how much protien do you reccomend?

well according to this: 180g

[noworries]

'you should eat about 140 grams of protein daily, which is about the amount in two chicken breasts and a 6-ounce can of tuna.'


this line is bullshit though.   That would be around 90g protein, unless those breasts are huge.

They're huge alright

[Mars]

[wavelength]

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[Mars]

one of my favourite songs

yes awesome.

[tbombz]

if your looking for somebody to give you an answer based on science, go ask a phd in protein metabolism... they can cite you exacly "how much protein you need"...science has already came to some pretty solid figures for this... but what they will fail to mentio is that Yes, science has got an answer for what a person "needs"... but by that all that i meant is= what is the minimum intake necessary to avoid a negative nitrogen balance(losss of protein - malnutrition)...  they have not yet came ot any conclusion on what is OPTIMAL for gainign muscle.... all that someone NEEDS to stay out of a state of MALNUTRITION..is quite low.. about.75grams per kilo for a sedentary and about .5grams per kilo for a weightlifter...

however studies evaluating "results" based evidence...(giving diff groups diff amounts of rptoein intake and seeing where the ceiling is)...seem to think its around 1-2grams per pound body weight.

[Bast175]

however studies evaluating "results" based evidence...(giving diff groups diff amounts of rptoein intake and seeing where the ceiling is)...seem to think its around 1-2grams per pound body weight.

which studies?  1-2 isn't narrowing it down at all

[tbombz]

which studies?  1-2 isn't narrowing it down at all

i know it isnt.. that could be anywhere from 200g to 400g... a couple pounds of meat difference... however thats as good as i could say without stretching the truth and becoming subjective...because at the moment thats as far as has been "widdled down" through science.