Author Topic: Seventh Grader Sues School Over Right to Wear Pro-Life T-Shirt  (Read 5352 times)

Al Doggity

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Re: Seventh Grader Sues School Over Right to Wear Pro-Life T-Shirt
« Reply #75 on: July 11, 2009, 11:23:49 AM »
lol.  So now I am "tacitly" making points.  This is precisely the kind of pointless stuff I was talking about.   I've never claimed to be happier than liberals or conservatives, although I am a very happy person.  My happiness has nothing to do with my political views.   And I certainly do go around comparing my happiness to others. 

You attempt to tacitly make points all the time. You just did it with an abortion article. You posted the story sans commentary, but you've posted enough anti-abortion stuff in the past that your intentions are crystal clear. The articles you post usually have a conservative slant to them, and often come from biased, conservative websites. You can pretend that each individual post you make exists in a vacuum, but anyone with common sense can see a common thread among your posts.

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You read a few posts, try and find some hidden meaning, then make an assumption, repeat it as fact, etc.  That's funny.

No. As you stated a few posts ago, you post on this board virtually every day. YOu yourself said you have made thousands of posts that go back years. My picture of you isn't based on a "few" posts. It's based on a very large, consistent catalogue of posts.
 

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Then you say:  "You conceded that you do label people, but you denied that you kept a tally of their political beliefs. So, yes, I actually did make a point."

Buzzzzzz!   :)  What I actually said was:


Very important to pay attention to detail when you're trying to keep people in the box. 

Likewise, you might want to consider becoming a little more detail oriented as well. Immediately following that quote, I post the larger, more important point, which you continue to ignore. Here it is:
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the larger point (which you also aggressively missed) wasn't so much the labeling and tallying, it was the labeling and tallying subsequent to reading multiple posts... which is inevitable. How does paying attention to what someone repeatedly says and referencing those statements in later conversations constitute poor communication technique?



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And yes, there is a problem with the box.  The notion that I express a view that is somehow inconsistent with what YOU believe is my "general philosophy" is just ridiculous.  But to each his own.   :)

Me, from earlier:
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In light of that, I will reiterate what I said in my last post. The contradiction (as I see it) wasn't so much in regards to a specific post from any of you three, but the common political leanings among you all.



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Re: Seventh Grader Sues School Over Right to Wear Pro-Life T-Shirt
« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2009, 11:43:50 PM »
It's interesting that so many of the conservatives on the board are essentially co-signing mandatory school uniforms.

As I've already mentioned in this thread, I went to a parochial high school, as well as a parochial grammar school. Even within our relatively tight dress code, we always managed to find a great deal of wiggle room. That's just going to happen with kids... hell, people in general. You just have to fucking deal with that shit. This t-shirt mess is hardly an indication of why dress codes would be a good idea. This is coming from someone who isn't even a clothes horse. My main criteria in choosing clothing to purchase
is how similar it looks to stuff I already have. And to be honest, I liked our dress code. I thought we looked so much neater than the public school kids. And Catholic school girls are just fucking hot.

I'm just kinda blown away (except, I'm not even a little surprised) that so many people who go on and on about our nanny states and  state's rights see the solution to what is ABSOLUTELY a non-issue as giving up choice.
hahahah see thats b/c you buy into the olbeirman msnbc BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

conservatives arent for the total lack of government and regulation...when its actually needed and warrented then the majority of conservatives are for it...

Im totally for uniforms in school and would consider myself conservative/independent or vice versa b/c like other have said it would help to solve a number of problems maybe you didnt go to a school with gangs, maybe you didnt go to a school where ppl tried to sneak on campus or off...

I totally agree that students will find a way to modify their uniforms but thats still better then the alternative option...

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Re: Seventh Grader Sues School Over Right to Wear Pro-Life T-Shirt
« Reply #77 on: July 12, 2009, 12:43:19 AM »
hahahah see thats b/c you buy into the olbeirman msnbc BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

conservatives arent for the total lack of government and regulation...when its actually needed and warrented then the majority of conservatives are for it...

Im totally for uniforms in school and would consider myself conservative/independent or vice versa b/c like other have said it would help to solve a number of problems maybe you didnt go to a school with gangs, maybe you didnt go to a school where ppl tried to sneak on campus or off...

I totally agree that students will find a way to modify their uniforms but thats still better then the alternative option...

I didn't say conservatives were for the total lack of government. I guess what I posted is up for interpretation, but what I intended to get across is that a basic tenet of conservatism is small government and emphasis on local government. (States' rights?)

Most people don't attend schools where gang activity is a problem- structured gangs with hierarchies, colors and hand signs. Uniforms wouldn't really 

 In theory, dressing everyone in the same clothes should solve a lot of problems, but in practice it doesn't, for two simple reasons: A)There simply aren't that many problems related to clothing in American schools B) the problems that do exist still exist in uniformed schools. You can still immediately tell which kids are poor, kids still test the boundaries of what they can get away with appearance wise and things like coats and gym shoes are still targeted for theft.

I'm not even anti-uniform. I always thought we looked so much neater than our public school counterparts and Catholic school girls are just fucking hot. It's like a school full of cheerleaders. What I am debating is the idea that uniforms are problem solvers. I think they're non-factors in most student-related issues.

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Re: Seventh Grader Sues School Over Right to Wear Pro-Life T-Shirt
« Reply #78 on: July 29, 2009, 12:52:33 PM »
Yeah...you've posted stuff like that before, I just didn't feel like searching for it.

Regardless  ::)