Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar

[The Showstoppa]

How come the gay guy has the only rational and valid post on this subject.

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[240 is Back]

when i taught in lee county, fl, they showed us a list of actions for which we could be fired.

They did a whole 'ethics' thing.  it was BS.  But some made sense.  I don't want a guy who performs as a porn star during summer breaks teaching kindergarten in september.  I don't want a chick arrested ten times for crack cocaine purchases teaching pre-school.

[The Showstoppa]

when i taught in lee county, fl, they showed us a list of actions for which we could be fired.

They did a whole 'ethics' thing.  it was BS.  But some made sense.  I don't want a guy who performs as a porn star during summer breaks teaching kindergarten in september.  I don't want a chick arrested ten times for crack cocaine purchases teaching pre-school.

240, then you better move out of Florida...

[BayGBM]

when i taught in lee county, fl, they showed us a list of actions for which we could be fired.

They did a whole 'ethics' thing.  it was BS.  But some made sense.  I don't want a guy who performs as a porn star during summer breaks teaching kindergarten in september.  I don't want a chick arrested ten times for crack cocaine purchases teaching pre-school.

You disappoint me . . . and your rational self (I know he is deep in there somewhere).  

First, you call their ethics rules “BS” then you ape the rhetoric of the people who peddle the BS.

The guy who makes porn in the summer might be a very effective kindergarten teacher in September.  What he does on his own time is none of your business so long as he conducts himself appropriately at work.  Our society does not pay teachers enough $$ to tell them what they can and cannot do when school is not in session.  Making movies—even porn movies--is perfectly legal. 

Barring someone with a (certain kind of) criminal record is a reasonable restriction for a school district to impose, but conflating that with legal behavior that some people may not like is simply daft.  The very parents who would move to fire this teacher/actor are the same parents who watch his movies.

Should we fire teachers who smoke?  Or drink (too much)?  What examples are the children in kindergarten more likely to know about via Mr. Smith’s example?  Smoking, drinking, or acting in adult films?  If Mr. Smith smokes he likely smells of smoke and every child in his class knows it.

[240 is Back]

the rules, as they explain them, exlude a TON fun things.  I played in a band and was told if I get photog'd doing shots with lots of girls (as was the practice back then) by the local press, I could lose my job.  They made a big deal about it at the college for all of us new teachers. 

Today, teachers have myspace and facebook, and local principals have made a HUGE deal about what the teachers are putting on them.  Says it could result in them being disciplined or even terminated, ala the professional ethics expectation.

Maybe it wouldn't be as bad if the teacher did porn... but Ft myers beach just fired a city manage because his WIFE used to be a porn star.  Maybe i'm just bitter i had to tone it down back then with the band at night.

[Dos Equis]

Assuming this relates to public schools, I agree teachers should be able to do whatever they want, legally, on their on their own time, provided it doesn't interfere with their positions as role models for their students.  

[24KT]

Nope, hate racist shit kc, but I truely believe people like Gates incite hate in his followers and incite hateful responces.  Gates does nothing but set back race relations.  But these are predicted responces to hateful people like him, I say it without emotion, its a matter of fact.  The officer needs to be reprimanded for his email, as I clearly stated in my 1st email.

None of my black buddies are anything like Gates.  He's a fucking upity prick that is obsessed with his own race and the past wrongs of this country.

kc, that was unfair.

I understand the attitude you're trying to decribe, ...I just find it interesting your choice of words. That particular adjective is only used in reference to Black people. I've never once seen or heard a white person described as uppity. Why is it?

[Hugo Chavez]

how many people were fired for emails about Bush?

how many racist e-mails about Bush were there?  Don't remember that happening...

[Eyeball Chambers]

And yet the Obama justice department dropped any charges against the black panthers who threatened white voters by weilding weapons and screaming "now you will know what its like to be rulled by the black man cracker".Something seems wrong.

Fucking savages are lucky they didn't try any shit like that where I voted.... 

[The Showstoppa]

Fucking savages are lucky they didn't try any shit like that where I voted.... 

Exactly.  What kind of pushover assclowns let them get away with it? 

[BM OUT]

I understand the attitude you're trying to decribe, ...I just find it interesting your choice of words. That particular adjective is only used in reference to Black people. I've never once seen or heard a white person described as uppity. Why is it?

So what?The term redneck is only applied to whites,yet I see many blacks that seem to be rednecks to me.Look up youtube and look up Alabama leprechaun and see what I mean.

[shootfighter1]

Thanks Jag, I was disappointed in kc's interpretation of my post.  I'm not the guy to use the comeback "but I have black friends"...hahaha.  (But in reality, I'm in a part-time R&B band and the only white dude!).

Not sure about the lingo up in Canada but we use upity to describe a lot of nose in the air rich people around here.  Common enough to say "that upity bitch...", referring to a stuck up girl who thinks her shit don't stink.  As always, I don't mean to offend in these debates. 

[GigantorX]

I understand the attitude you're trying to decribe, ...I just find it interesting your choice of words. That particular adjective is only used in reference to Black people. I've never once seen or heard a white person described as uppity. Why is it?

It depends. Where I'm from, "Uppity" is a general term for a stuck up jackass. I realize the common terminology associated with it, but it isn't true everywhere.

[24KT]

So what?The term redneck is only applied to whites,yet I see many blacks that seem to be rednecks to me.Look up youtube and look up Alabama leprechaun and see what I mean.

I have never heard Alabama leprecaun.
If I have to google it, wouldn't it stand to reason it is an obscure and uncommon term?   

[24KT]

Thanks Jag, I was disappointed in kc's interpretation of my post.  I'm not the guy to use the comeback "but I have black friends"...hahaha.  (But in reality, I'm in a part-time R&B band and the only white dude!).

Not sure about the lingo up in Canada but we use upity to describe a lot of nose in the air rich people around here.  Common enough to say "that upity bitch...", referring to a stuck up girl who thinks her shit don't stink.  As always, I don't mean to offend in these debates. 

It depends. Where I'm from, "Uppity" is a general term for a stuck up jackass. I realize the common terminology associated with it, but it isn't true everywhere.

Gentlemen, don't get me wrong, ...I understand the meaning of the word, and I understand the attitude it refers to. What I'm saying, is that, as my observation, that adjective has only ever been applied to Blacks. Whites who display the very same attitude being disparaged are referred to as "stuck up", but when Blacks are being described, the term "uppity" is used. I'm simply making an observation. You decide what meaning or significance it has... if any.

[24KT]