Keith Olbermann now compares tea parties to Hamas and Hezbollah!!!

[240 is Back]

Actually, the govt only took over these companies after they came to the govt and begged for $.

[tonymctones]

Actually, the govt only took over these companies after they came to the govt and begged for $.

i guess that makes it ok, right?

[Bindare_Dundat]

You are operating under the illusion that the President can just do whatever he wants. There is a system of checks and balances. The appointing of these Czars is bullshit because of the simple fact there is no congressional oversite, yet these guys seem to have all this power. What about the Pay Czar? Where does he get his power to decide how much money people can make? Congress didn't give it to him, so now you are OK if the POTUS just decides that some guy he appoints is going to decide how much you can make? That is not only bullshit it usurps the constitution and checks and balances that the government is supposed to run under.

bump.

[Kazan]

bump.

Yeah I noticed there was no reply

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah I noticed there was no reply

[Decker]

You are operating under the illusion that the President can just do whatever he wants. There is a system of checks and balances. The appointing of these Czars is bullshit because of the simple fact there is no congressional oversite, yet these guys seem to have all this power. What about the Pay Czar? Where does he get his power to decide how much money people can make? Congress didn't give it to him, so now you are OK if the POTUS just decides that some guy he appoints is going to decide how much you can make? That is not only bullshit it usurps the constitution and checks and balances that the government is supposed to run under. If that isn't fucking fascism I don't know what is.

You have pointed out nothing that indicates President Obama abused his constitutional power or sought to illegally subvert congressional will or oversight.

You're bellyaching.  Otherwise I'm certain there will be impeachment proceedings.

This is your chance to make a difference.

It's not like Obama implemented a domestic spy program...a felony violation of FISA.

[Kazan]

You have pointed out nothing that indicates President Obama abused his constitutional power or sought to illegally subvert congressional will or oversight.

You're bellyaching.  Otherwise I'm certain there will be impeachment proceedings.

This is your chance to make a difference.

It's not like Obama implemented a domestic spy program...a felony violation of FISA.

Really? Giving someone he appoints no congressional oversight, to decide what people in the private sector make is not abusing constitutional powers. You sir don't have a fucking clue how the checks and balances of the Federal Government are supposed to work. I'm bellyaching? Your a sheep, you follow the shepard even if it mean walking off a cliff.

Yeah bring up Bush, again and again and again, which has absolutly nothing to do with what Obama is doing. Why are there no impeachment hearings? Because not one member of congress has the stones to rock the boat. Because they know if they do all the skeletons will be dragged out of their closet and they will be out of a job.

Why don't you wake the up, the government does not care about you, they don't care about America, they care about what keeps them in power and gives them more power and more control.

It doesn't matter if is Democrat or Rebulican, they are all politicians, the contempt they have for the people of America is sickening. And this can be seen when there is any disention to their "we know best" attitude. They can't even answer a question, I for one am sick and tired of watching a politican asked a question and then bable on for 5 minutes and not only not answer the question but say absolutly nothing.

[Decker]

Really? Giving someone he appoints no congressional oversight, to decide what people in the private sector make is not abusing constitutional powers. You sir don't have a fucking clue how the checks and balances of the Federal Government are supposed to work. I'm bellyaching? Your a sheep, you follow the shepard even if it mean walking off a cliff.

What constitutional power is Obama abusing?  What statute did he violate?  What has he done with 'czars' that any president of the last 40 years hasn't?

Yeah bring up Bush, again and again and again, which has absolutly nothing to do with what Obama is doing. Why are there no impeachment hearings? Because not one member of congress has the stones to rock the boat. Because they know if they do all the skeletons will be dragged out of their closet and they will be out of a job.

Yeah, you don't want to open that can of worms.

Why don't you wake the up, the government does not care about you, they don't care about America, they care about what keeps them in power and gives them more power and more control.

We are the government. 

It doesn't matter if is Democrat or Rebulican, they are all politicians, the contempt they have for the people of America is sickening. And this can be seen when there is any disention to their "we know best" attitude. They can't even answer a question, I for one am sick and tired of watching a politican asked a question and then bable on for 5 minutes and not only not answer the question but say absolutly nothing.

The american people get the politicians they deserve.  They vote in people, for the most part, who bring home federal spending.

[Kazan]

What constitutional power is Obama abusing?  What statute did he violate?  What has he done with 'czars' that any president of the last 40 years hasn't?
Yeah, you don't want to open that can of worms.
We are the government. 
The american people get the politicians they deserve.  They vote in people, for the most part, who bring home federal spending.

1)You see that is the problem he has no constitutional authority to appoint a "CZAR" to decide what someone in the private sector makes, the constitution is what protects Ameicans from the federal government not the other way around. It doesn't matter if its been done for the last 40 years its still bullshit no matter is or was doing it and they should be called to the carpet for it.

2) It is what it is, the sad truth is the people who want to be politicians, are usually the worst choice.

3) We used to be the government, now we are treated with contempt by our elected officials. I think it's about time they were reminded who works for whom.

4) Sad but true, see 2

[George Whorewell]

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”- C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock p. 92

[Soul Crusher]

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”- C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock p. 92

That quote is always one of my favorites. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

1)You see that is the problem he has no constitutional authority to appoint a "CZAR" to decide what someone in the private sector makes, the constitution is what protects Ameicans from the federal government not the other way around. It doesn't matter if its been done for the last 40 years its still bullshit no matter is or was doing it and they should be called to the carpet for it.

2) It is what it is, the sad truth is the people who want to be politicians, are usually the worst choice.

3) We used to be the government, now we are treated with contempt by our elected officials. I think it's about time they were reminded who works for whom.

4) Sad but true, see 2

+1

[Decker]

1)You see that is the problem he has no constitutional authority to appoint a "CZAR" to decide what someone in the private sector makes, the constitution is what protects Ameicans from the federal government not the other way around. It doesn't matter if its been done for the last 40 years its still bullshit no matter is or was doing it and they should be called to the carpet for it.

2) It is what it is, the sad truth is the people who want to be politicians, are usually the worst choice.

3) We used to be the government, now we are treated with contempt by our elected officials. I think it's about time they were reminded who works for whom.

4) Sad but true, see 2

This is the nature of politics that make its practice tough - people get the political representation they want and deserve.  Everybody wants their piece of the pie.  There's only so much pie and so many pieces to hand out.

We bemoan gov. spending but we keep electing politicians who bring home the bacon to the voters.

Outside of a dictatorship, I don't see that dynamic changing.