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For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« on: August 18, 2009, 04:06:27 PM »
For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
By JOHN LELAND 5:20 PM ET
Elderly athletes are setting records. Most are also taking several medications for their health, and that raises the question of what now constitutes a natural body.

In his apartment outside Philadelphia, Frank Levine pulled a list of prescription medications from his refrigerator, his hands shaking slightly. There was metformin HCl and glipizide for his diabetes; lisinopril for his blood pressure; and Viagra.

“I need it,” he said recently.

Mr. Levine, who is 95 and has had operations on both knees, in June set the American record in the 400-meter dash for men aged 95 to 99, only to see it broken at the U.S.A. Masters Outdoor Track & Field Championships a few weeks later. “Nothing counts unless you’re first,” he said.

Mr. Levine belongs to a generation of track and field athletes who are breaking records for speed, distance and endurance at ages once considered too old for competition. In a sport tarnished by doping scandals, the older athletes raise anew the question of what constitutes a natural body for people who are at an age when drugs are a part of life.

“Who’s 75 years old and not taking medications?” asked Gary Snyder, national chairman of U.S.A. Track & Field’s masters committee, which will oversee more than 100 competitions this year for athletes over age 30.

Most drugs like Mr. Levine’s are not banned for competitors, but some common treatments for asthma, menopause and inflammation contain steroids that can disqualify athletes if they do not get written medical exemptions.

“I’m sure there are folks taking something like Manny,” Mr. Snyder said, referring to Manny Ramirez, the baseball player for the Los Angeles Dodgers who this year was suspended 50 games for violating the sport’s drug policy. “But most are using drugs for medical reasons.”

Ray Feick, 77, said he suspected “two or three” peers of using steroids to enhance their performance, including one shot-putter who suddenly was able to beat him. “My buddies and I talk about it,” he said. “It’s not fair to the age bracket and not fair to their body. And one by one, they drop out.”

U.S.A. Track & Field, the sport’s governing body, has a zero tolerance policy for doping but does not test for drugs at masters events because it is too expensive — about $500 per athlete and another $10,000 to take a testing organization to the meet, Mr. Snyder said.

But there is testing at the World Masters Championship, which took place this year in Lahti, Finland, in late July and early August. In 1999, the American sprinter Kathy Jager, 56, was stripped of her medals and barred from competition for two years after she tested positive for anabolic steroids, which she ascribed to her use of a popular menopause treatment called Estratest HS.

“When we set records, the Europeans look at us like, ‘Oh sure, so-and-so is taking stuff,’ ” Mr. Snyder said.

For Rosalyn Katz, 67, a thrower from Queens who said she did not take any medications, the question of drug use is beside the point. On a recent morning, Ms. Katz, a retired school administrator, and her training partner, Neni Lewis, 49, were throwing heavy weights in a city park. Ms. Lewis’s hammer throw hooked too far to the left and hung from a tree branch like a 9-pound Christmas ornament. The two women throw before 7 a.m. twice a week, all year round.

“I don’t think anyone taking asthma medication is going to throw or run any better,” Ms. Katz said. “I think they’re doing it because they can’t breathe.”

Like many other women who compete past age 60, Ms. Katz said she had not had a track and field program available to her in high school and college and had never thrown until she was close to 50...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/us/19athletes.html?hp

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 04:08:42 PM »
lol..........old people are gross.

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 03:23:01 AM »
The sad part is that some of those guys are in way better health and shape than some of our fellow posters. lol.

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 06:41:28 AM »
The sad part is that some of those guys are in way better health and shape than some of our fellow posters. lol.

haha yupp i agree

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 12:55:12 PM »
The sad part is that some of those guys are in way better health and shape than some of our fellow posters. lol.

I don't know if I'd go that far. A 65 year old heart is still a 65 year old heart... with a lifetime's worth of build up in the arteries, etc.  Years of drinking, smoking, and poor eating habits take their toll on your insides even when the outside may look ok. :-\

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 02:21:16 PM »
I don't know if I'd go that far. A 65 year old heart is still a 65 year old heart... with a lifetime's worth of build up in the arteries, etc.  Years of drinking, smoking, and poor eating habits take their toll on your insides even when the outside may look ok. :-\
sounds like any given pro bb in there 20s 30s
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 03:38:10 PM »
There are some 65 year olds out there that hav always eaten right, never drank, and excercised frequently...I'm sure there or 65 healthier than some 30 and 40 year olds that don't take care of themselves

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 07:11:04 PM »
The "steroids" used for asthma, inflammation, etc., are freaking CORTICO- steroids. If they are going to make an arguement, they should learn to discern between anabolic and catabolic steroids.

The ones used for (male??)  menopause would be anabolic, but the dosages would only bring these geezers to normal levels for a 50 year old man (if theyre lucky)

The whole concept and competetive rules would become entirely subjective in that particular age group.

Just being alive at that age should allow them to do whatever the fuck they want. Theyve earned it.

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2009, 12:14:26 PM »
All of you will be old someday..if you are lucky enough to grow old and wise.

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2009, 03:23:11 PM »
There are some 65 year olds out there that hav always eaten right, never drank, and excercised frequently...I'm sure there or 65 healthier than some 30 and 40 year olds that don't take care of themselves
Exactly..Who do you think has the healthier heart, kidneys or liver..A 30 year old bodybuilder who has spent the last 10 years injecting 3 grams a week of androgens, 8 to 12IUs of Gh a day, thyroid drugs, clenbuterol, insulin, IGf1 or the healthy 65 year old guy?

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2009, 03:28:03 PM »
Yup

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2009, 10:06:13 PM »
The "steroids" used for asthma, inflammation, etc., are freaking CORTICO- steroids. If they are going to make an arguement, they should learn to discern between anabolic and catabolic steroids.

Corts can have EXTREME performance enhancing effects. Pretty much immediate effects as well, unlike AAS.

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 10:51:11 AM »
I don't know if I'd go that far. A 65 year old heart is still a 65 year old heart... with a lifetime's worth of build up in the arteries, etc.  Years of drinking, smoking, and poor eating habits take their toll on your insides even when the outside may look ok. :-\

I've had clients in the past who have been in their 60's and even 70's who were in far better shape than clients half their age. Some of these clients had resting heart rates that younger clients can only dream about.

Of course, as you said, an old heart is an old heart, no matter how well you take care of it. The perfect example, my grandfather. He's 87 yrs old and had his first heart attack this year. He doesn't smoke, doesn't drink but it still happened. He hasn't eaten the best diet in the world but he's remained very active. Walks every day, still climbs trees like a monkey when he's pruning the trees in his yard. It's quite a site to see a man in his 80's in the top of a tree with a rope around his waist leaning out with a saw to cut a limb, lol! When he had his heart attack this year he started his rehab and within in a couple wks he was walking on a treadmill at a 3 degree incline at 3.0mph for 45min every day...not too bad if you ask me.

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Re: For Older Athletes, Drug Question Emerges
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 12:44:42 PM »
thats a hardcore old man..ill be training until the day i die