gh/slin mass gains!!!!!!

[muscle19]

ok bros, been reading alot of gh and slin, i have ised plenty of times but reading different methods:
right now i tkae 8ius ed, no slin yet but  i have been readin for mass gains, take gh 3 x per wk pwo, what do you guys know about this way? and if taken pwo, when does the slin come in? and the gh taking this was is IM with a slin pin in the bis, tris etc...

[Arnold jr]

Curious, where did you read this?

[tbombz]

you dont have to take gh at any specific time. doing it post workout will not yeild any better effects than any other time. the more often you do gh the better the results, so 3xweekly isnt optimal as 7c weekly. s

[muscle19]

http://anabolicboard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20322

[Arnold jr]

I agree with tbombz. HGH needs to be injected every day for a real full effect. Plus the above plan you outlined, to me it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

[muscle19]

see it didnt make alot of sence to me too, i posted back over there saying doesnt gh need tio be ed? so i wanted opinion on howthis could work you guys answered my questions   thanks

[tbombz]

well it doesnt HAVE to be everyday. in fact in some studies patients undergoing gh treatment got the same benefits doing double doses everyother day, but built up less antibodies.so the verdict is out as to what is the "optimal" way to use it. but as far as timing it in relation to your workouts, that is already settled, it doesnt matter what time of day you take it in relationg to your workout. 

[Van_Bilderass]

well it doesnt HAVE to be everyday. in fact in some studies patients undergoing gh treatment got the same benefits doing double doses everyother day, but built up less antibodies.so the verdict is out as to what is the "optimal" way to use it. but as far as timing it in relation to your workouts, that is already settled, it doesnt matter what time of day you take it in relationg to your workout. 

I don't remember the anti-body thing but I remember some study showing that children treated with GH EOD grew better after they got off the GH. However while on the treatment the ED group had slightly better growth. I think they speculated there was some local resistance to the hormone in bone tissue. This is going off memory so I might be off. Anyhow, people on forums drew some definitive conclusions saying GH done EOD was better for bodybuilders. But how does this data really apply to bodybuilders? If the matter was settled I'm pretty sure even the HIV patients would be switched to 36IU EOD instead of 18IU ED. Even in growth disorders in children I bet most are still on an ED schedule.

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't remember the anti-body thing but I remember some study showing that children treated with GH EOD grew better after they got off the GH. However while on the treatment the ED group had slightly better growth. I think they speculated there was some local resistance to the hormone in bone tissue. This is going off memory so I might be off. Anyhow, people on forums drew some definitive conclusions saying GH done EOD was better for bodybuilders. But how does this data really apply to bodybuilders? If the matter was settled I'm pretty sure even the HIV patients would be switched to 36IU EOD instead of 18IU ED. Even in growth disorders in children I bet most are still on an ED schedule.

I remembered that afboard had a thread about this. If anyone is interested, take a look. I don't necessarily endorse the conclusions drawn here.

http://www.afboard.com/forum/af-hall-fame/30034-article-dosing-gh-eod.html

I remembered correctly, ED was better while on the treatment. Of course bodybuilders aren't interested in growing taller anyway.

Light bar is ED and dark bar EOD.

[tbombz]

yeah i think everyday is going to be better than every other day, if total weekly doseage is equal in the two groups. taking away the growth factors, the metabolic effects of gh, shunting food away from fat and forcing muscle to uptake it... this would need everyday injections.. and that IMO is one of the primary drivers of gh effectivness in bodybuilders