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Anti estrogen
« on: September 28, 2009, 07:24:17 AM »
What's the best anti estrogen for long term use?

I normally use nolvadex.

I have heard that arimidex is better. Is it better, and what about it's sides?


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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 08:10:30 AM »
How long are we talking here?

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 08:16:10 AM »
I would say that for "long term use" Nolvadex would be the safest, because it has positive effects on your lipid profiles and makes you actually feel good. For "dryer" look Arimidex is more effective, but many guys report side effects such as feeling sick and weak... Of course not all, but some. In addiction to these two there are countless of other products to choose from, you just have to decide whether you want to use a SERM or an AI...
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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 12:42:31 PM »
arimidex is the best.. 0.5mg eod is ok..

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 01:31:16 PM »
what about proviron

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 02:59:57 PM »
What's the best anti estrogen for long term use?

I normally use nolvadex.

I have heard that arimidex is better. Is it better, and what about it's sides?



Why would you want "long-term" use of an anti-estrogen?

Nolvadex, for example, can cause significant and permanent visual impairment.  If your profession depends a lot on visual acuity, this would be a poor choice.

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 09:36:46 PM »
Why would you want "long-term" use of an anti-estrogen?

Nolvadex, for example, can cause significant and permanent visual impairment.  If your profession depends a lot on visual acuity, this would be a poor choice.

I thought that was an issue only with Clomid, i know that both of them are SERMs, but never new that could happen with Nolvadex. Never happened to me with either one and i've run them close to three months.
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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 09:38:02 PM »
what about proviron

Proviron is not a conventional anti estrogen. It's an androgen with estrogenic properties. It will not replace an AI.

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 02:28:15 AM »
Why would you want "long-term" use of an anti-estrogen?


Because I'm never going to come off gear, that's why...

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 09:22:55 AM »
Because I'm never going to come off gear, that's why...
hope you have a solid financial future. gear+ at least 1g protein per lb per day+ gym membership for life..  it may not be more than a few hundred a month but that is on top of moprtgage/rent car payment insurance gas etc etc

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 11:18:06 AM »
hope you have a solid financial future. gear+ at least 1g protein per lb per day+ gym membership for life..  it may not be more than a few hundred a month but that is on top of moprtgage/rent car payment insurance gas etc etc

yop, I learned it the hard way this year hahaha

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 02:05:28 PM »
hope you have a solid financial future. gear+ at least 1g protein per lb per day+ gym membership for life..  it may not be more than a few hundred a month but that is on top of moprtgage/rent car payment insurance gas etc etc

f*ck, sell the car, I'll ride the bike to the gym ... I'll do fine.  ;D

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 02:13:23 PM »
f*ck, sell the car, I'll ride the bike to the gym ... I'll do fine.  ;D
lol. i have the same attitude. however its best t be stable, makes my woman happy, and i dont have to sacrifice weed or junk food at the expense of steroids or protein..

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 03:04:08 PM »
lol. i have the same attitude. however its best t be stable, makes my woman happy, and i dont have to sacrifice weed or junk food at the expense of steroids or protein..

fixed....what do you think the adverse affects are of you smoking grass and trying to become a BB

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 03:14:24 PM »
fixed....what do you think the adverse affects are of you smoking grass and trying to become a BB
at the moment it helps tremendously because it keeps me sedentary and hungry

when i diet i dont smoke weed at all

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 03:17:31 PM »
When I'm bulking, sometimes ill smoke a little weed post workout...it helps me house down a shake and lots of food

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2009, 05:37:31 PM »
at the moment it helps tremendously because it keeps me sedentary and hungry

when i diet i dont smoke weed at all

The munchies are very real.  Herb is well documented as an appetite stimulant.  Newbs to weed are not the only ones prone to it, i first got high in 1977 and can feel the effect it has on my appetite and it is pretty strong.  It can be controlled though if you have the determination.  Just did my daily hits of Test P and Tren Ace and am winding down with a couple hits of the sticky green shit, I'm dieting also.  A diet Pepsi will help blunt the urge to eat later.

Man once after eating a good sized steak dinner, smoked some tea and 1.5 hours later ate almost 6000 calories of almonds, protein bars and natty PB.  PB is very dangerous if you have the hungries.   :)

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2009, 05:41:55 PM »
The munchies are very real.  Herb is well documented as an appetite stimulant.  Newbs to weed are not the only ones prone to it, i first got high in 1977 and can feel the effect it has on my appetite and it is pretty strong.  It can be controlled though if you have the determination.  Just did my daily hits of Test P and Tren Ace and am winding down with a couple hits of the sticky green shit, I'm dieting also.  A diet Pepsi will help blunt the urge to eat later.

Man once after eating a good sized steak dinner, smoked some tea and 1.5 hours later ate almost 6000 calories of almonds, protein bars and natty PB.  PB is very dangerous if you have the hungries.   :)
hahahahahahaha dude, peanu butter.... a year and a half ago , mid april of 2008, i remember i was high and hungry and what i found first was a big three pack of jumbo sized jars of all natural thick and chunky peanut butter. looking into those jars my eyes probably glazed over, as i felt like i would cry with happyness. an hour later, looking at three empty jars of peanut butter, i was trying to convince myself that it wasnt enough food to put on a significant amount of fat..besides..."i hadnt eaten any carbs today"...    ;D    next morning i woke up a diffferent person, literally

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2009, 06:01:12 PM »
hahahahahahaha dude, peanu butter.... a year and a half ago , mid april of 2008, i remember i was high and hungry and what i found first was a big three pack of jumbo sized jars of all natural thick and chunky peanut butter. looking into those jars my eyes probably glazed over, as i felt like i would cry with happyness. an hour later, looking at three empty jars of peanut butter, i was trying to convince myself that it wasnt enough food to put on a significant amount of fat..besides..."i hadnt eaten any carbs today"...    ;D    next morning i woke up a diffferent person, literally

LOL!! 3 jars is huge, thats like almost 12000 calories!  I could see it though, once you get rolling it's hard to stop  ;D  I bet that made you a bit sick the next day. I figure a jar of PB is = to a lb of fat if not burned up.  You can knock back some serious calories real fast on that stuff.

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Re: Anti estrogen
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2009, 08:03:01 PM »
Holy shit bro 3 jars...that's extreme...I've had some binges before there's nothing like a banana chocolate peanut butter ice cream protein smoothie that's close to 3000 cals whilst munching on a large meat lovers pizza and hot wings