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Blackmail, extortion, slander and liable are very serious accusations that have been made against myself and my company by Rich Gaspari, Daniel Pierce, and Gaspari Nutrition.

First lets address some of Rich Gaspari's claims:

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Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
I am personally posting on this site because I am troubled by allegations that have been made against my company Gaspari Nutrition, which I have worked so long and hard to make a success. 

First of all Rich you did not personally post on this site, you had your lackey do it for you, and you are already misrepresenting yourself in your opening statement from the first line just like you do in everything you say here.

Next is the FACT that NO allegations were made by me against Gaspari Nutrition. NONE


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Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
When statements are made about my company that I do not believe are accurate I have to stand up and correct those mistakes before they become ?fact? simply because they have been posted on the internet.

Stand up and correct what Rich? What have I ever stated about your company that isn't true Richard? Show me one thing Rich. Where is it? What have I said about your company or posted on the internet that isn't true Rich? You made a lot of accusations but there is not even .02mg of truth in what you said.

NOTHING was posted by me about Gaspari Nutrition prior to the slanderous and liable statements posted by YOU and Dan Pierce.


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False allegations have been made about the accuracy of the label claims of a certain Gaspari Nutrition product, along with baseless statements and threats to publicly embarrass my company. 

No false allegations were made by me about anything. What I told you Rich was that your product FAILED a lab test and it did. The parameters of that lab test were clearly printed in the test. NO FALSE ALLEGATIONS WERE MADE and the test was sent to you personally Rich so you could see the test for yourself.

If Rich was aware that he "allegedly" had Turkesterone in his product under the tested parameters he could have just told me as a friend, like I told him in person and to his face. NO THREATS TO PUBLICALLY EMBARRASS GAPSARI NUTRITION WERE EVER MADE even though Gaspari employee Dan Pierce did make quite a few "baseless statements and threats and did try to publicly embarrass MY company" prior to the slander and lies posted in this thread. Yet as I TOLD YOU Rich I instructed my reps not to say anything about your company but all bets are off now "Mr. 2 ½ times more mass after just one dose", or whatever you are trying to get kids to believe.


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Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
The individual making the false allegations is Ron Kramer, President and CEO of ThermoLife International. 

STRONG SLANDER.

Again no false allegations were made at all.

**As a side note I wondered how the hell did moderators at bb.com let this slander stay posted? I mean if I posted something like this it would be deleted and I would have been banned. In the long run "the one way street" bias that this thread was OK to keep open is what will eventually be what exposes Gaspari the most. So in the long rung I guess you guys (moderators at bb.com) did a good job and consumers will ultimately have a chance to see thru the lies and deception posted by Daniel Pierce and Rich Gaspari.


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Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
His emails to me coupled with his Internet postings suggest a motive founded in his unjustified but bizarrely intense vendetta against our employee and board rep Daniel Pierce (a.k.a. Deserusan). 

What internet postings are you talking about Mr. Gaspari? Why are you making up so many lies? There is not ONE internet posting and you know it. If there is one post it, if not QUIT LYING.


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Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
Although we have attempted to address this situation privately and amicably we have been unsuccessful, and Gaspari Nutrition will not be intimidated or threatened with such actions.

It seems to me that you were extremely intimidated Richard, so much so you felt the need to try and slander me and post your sorry excuse for why the lab test that was set at a detection limit of 80ppm could not identify the "alleged" .02mg per 20 gram serving you CLAIM to have in the product. I In my opinion these are the actions of a very intimidated person. Could it be that you were caught red handed and panicked?? Could it be you are so confused about what you say is in your product and what isn't in your product that you are delusional? Gee I wonder what it is that has you making up these statements?


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Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
Therefore, we feel it necessary to publicly disclose that Mr. Kramer has contacted Gaspari Nutrition and threatened that if we do not terminate Mr. Pierce, he will ?expose? independent testing of our SuperPump250 product, which he suggests will reveal that SuperPump250 does not contain the ingredient Turkesterone.


This is an outright lie Rich and you know it. Seems not only are you intimidated but apparently you are delusional too!

As soon as I told Rich about the test he is the one who asked me "what could I do so you don't post the test". Rich knows this is what happened and I had two people standing there who heard the whole thing.

I never said anything about posting the test, Rich is the one who asked me "what could I do so you don’t post the test" and when he did I said "well as long as you ask, you can get rid of that kid Des cause I was just about to tell you want turd he is and how many other people think so too".

I had even posted in my forum that Des is a turd and I was going to make a point and tell Rich what a turd Des is the next time I see him.

Rich wanted to know why I thought Des was such a turd and after I told him all the stuff that Des said and posted he said "fine, I don't read the boards so just send me all the posts in an e-mail when you get back so I have a reason to get rid of him."

And just like Rich requested, that is what I did.


NO THREATS WERE MADE. This is a sad attempt at by Rich Gaspari to twist the facts and try to make me look like a bad guy while diverting the attention away from the fact that he is intentionally manufacturing under dosed products (at best!).





Regulation is not necessary when anyone with the slightest inclination towards research can learn what supplements are snake oil and which are not.  For the record, I am a huge fan of Gaspari's products, except for SuperDump2Shitty.
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http://www.thermolife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666

Regulation is not necessary when anyone with the slightest inclination towards research can learn what supplements are snake oil and which are not.  For the record, I am a huge fan of Gaspari's products, except for SuperDump2Shitty.

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Rich Gaspari fucks lots of heads.

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The gas is so bad while using Gaspari's SuperDump2Shitty that it is advised you do not have a girlfriend while taking it.  :-X  It is also advised that you do not have a family, friends, neighbors who walk in the vicinity of your house, a mailman, visiting Jehovah's witnesses, pets, live lobsters purchased for supper, an infestation of mice, etc, etc.  Yes, the gas is THAT bad.  :-X :-X  I did not think diarrhea as bad as that caused by SuperDump2Shitty could possibly be produced by a human being.  :-X :-X :-X

I would take it and immediately start farting and would literally be checking my pants for shit!!!  Don't get me started on the horrors of using it on leg day.  ;D

I highly do not recommend it.  F.  That is my advice.  My complete review is here:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsuperpump250review.html

To say something nice about it, if you can tolerate it [big if], it is effective, but I would just cut out the NO altogether and go with beta-alanine.

However, SIZEON is absolutely amazing!  A+.  If you are going to try a creatine product, it is highly recommended.  My review is here:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gasparinutritionsizeonreview.html

I recommend the GRAPE BLAST flavour.
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http://www.thermolife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666

Regulation is not necessary
Damn it Matt C you libertarian-wannabe. You're all over the place.
In some thread the other day you wrote that regulations can be useful.
Which is it?
What about existing kiddie porn? should it be regulated?
interest organisations for pedophiles?
regulated?
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I only know one person who did not get the shits with SuperPump and he religiously would drink milk or a protein shake right after he drank it.  Maybe you have to get something else in your system right away or something.  I have not taken it because I have no desire to shit myself.

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Matt C while I do not agree or endorse all of your philosophies I must say you are an asset to the board.  Kudos. 

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Where is Cathy Lee Francois Priest whatevah??

I know she has some shit to talk.

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Could you imagine the bowel movements that hide is making combining Super Pump with Asian food?  WOW.

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Matt C while I do not agree or endorse all of your philosophies I must say you are an asset to the board.  Kudos. 

Hey, thanks man!!!

Could you imagine the bowel movements that hide is making combining Super Pump with Asian food?  WOW.

OMFG.  :-X

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 03:01:37 AM »
Could you imagine the bowel movements that hide is making combining Super Pump with Asian food?  WOW.

A lot of guys in the PGA won't go into the bathroom after VJ singh goes in...And some say they even lost a few strokes playing with him because of the stench...

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Where is Cathy Lee Francois Priest whatevah??

I know she has some shit to talk.
Matt C is preparing her gaspari enema as we speak. ain't that right Matt? :D
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http://www.thermolife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666

Regulation is not necessary when anyone with the slightest inclination towards research can learn what supplements are snake oil and which are not.  For the record, I am a huge fan of Gaspari's products, except for SuperDump2Shitty.

Matt, you are missing the point on what regulation is intended to do. When was the last time the "average joe" went around to research which brand of aspirin worked and which ones didn't?  aspirin is aspirin and has to adhere to some kind of standard to be considered "aspirin".  To my understanding in the medical industry there are clinical trials and the burden of proof is on the company trying to get approval.


I think you view the choice as being between no regulation and over regulation, most intelligent people would concede that there has to be a middle ground.





 

The point is that one shouldn't have to go around and research
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i got a free sample of sizeon, used it before a workout.  it as great, felt a nice buzz.

i don't know if you'd become dependent upon it just to feel normal for a workout, however. 

somebody should ask gaspari to register and post here

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i have used it a couple of times and really like the stuff.  I have not had the aforementioned gas or shits from it at all.  Everyone responds to things differently.

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i have used it a couple of times and really like the stuff.  I have not had the aforementioned gas or shits from it at all.  Everyone responds to things differently.


Like car accidents?

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When your using gaspari, your piss and shit is very expensive. :D

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I got a small tub of Superpump and i've only taken it a couple of times on workout days. I kind of like it, it makes me feel more awake and have more energy than Animal Pump does, but it does give me a throwy up feeling if I train too hard during my workouts (supersetting heavy dumbbell rows for instance).

and I havn't experienced the shits.

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I'm going to wait for the #1 industry insider and know it all Vince Goodrum to settle this.  He knows what happened and I feel confident he will come on here and f.u.c.k. clear things up.
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Matt, you are missing the point on what regulation is intended to do. When was the last time the "average joe" went around to research which brand of aspirin worked and which ones didn't?  aspirin is aspirin and has to adhere to some kind of standard to be considered "aspirin".  To my understanding in the medical industry there are clinical trials and the burden of proof is on the company trying to get approval.


I think you view the choice as being between no regulation and over regulation, most intelligent people would concede that there has to be a middle ground.





 

The point is that one shouldn't have to go around and research

Regulation can certainly be good, it's just that regulation is not necessarily a sufficient condition for a product to be good and sometimes not even a necessary condition.  It really depends on the regulation.

With that said, I really have no issue with under-dosed supplements and exaggerated claims.  People will eventually come to learn that not all claims can be trusted and do some level of research to ensure they are getting a decent product.  The safety of supplements is another story and perhaps a stronger consideration for regulation.
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I have taken superpump and yeah I get the superdumps.

I dont get this with noxplode....what is in the superpump which causes this??

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I have taken both superpump and sizeon and had some nice results.  I keep reading about all the gas and diahrea associated with SUPERDUMP but honestly I had no side affects.  Maybe im just lucky but I usually have a sensitive stomach.  This stuff does give you a much harder look so I wouldnt be suprised if its got some secret "stuff" in it.

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Thermolife vs. Gaspari

From the Thermolife Forum...

Blackmail, extortion, slander and liable are very serious accusations that have been made against myself and my company by Rich Gaspari, Daniel Pierce, and Gaspari Nutrition.

First lets address some of Rich Gaspari's claims:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
I am personally posting on this site because I am troubled by allegations that have been made against my company Gaspari Nutrition, which I have worked so long and hard to make a success.  

First of all Rich you did not personally post on this site, you had your lackey do it for you, and you are already misrepresenting yourself in your opening statement from the first line just like you do in everything you say here.

Next is the FACT that NO allegations were made by me against Gaspari Nutrition. NONE


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
When statements are made about my company that I do not believe are accurate I have to stand up and correct those mistakes before they become ?fact? simply because they have been posted on the internet.

Stand up and correct what Rich? What have I ever stated about your company that isn't true Richard? Show me one thing Rich. Where is it? What have I said about your company or posted on the internet that isn't true Rich? You made a lot of accusations but there is not even .02mg of truth in what you said.

NOTHING was posted by me about Gaspari Nutrition prior to the slanderous and liable statements posted by YOU and Dan Pierce.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
False allegations have been made about the accuracy of the label claims of a certain Gaspari Nutrition product, along with baseless statements and threats to publicly embarrass my company.  

No false allegations were made by me about anything. What I told you Rich was that your product FAILED a lab test and it did. The parameters of that lab test were clearly printed in the test. NO FALSE ALLEGATIONS WERE MADE and the test was sent to you personally Rich so you could see the test for yourself.

If Rich was aware that he "allegedly" had Turkesterone in his product under the tested parameters he could have just told me as a friend, like I told him in person and to his face. NO THREATS TO PUBLICALLY EMBARRASS GAPSARI NUTRITION WERE EVER MADE even though Gaspari employee Dan Pierce did make quite a few "baseless statements and threats and did try to publicly embarrass MY company" prior to the slander and lies posted in this thread. Yet as I TOLD YOU Rich I instructed my reps not to say anything about your company but all bets are off now "Mr. 2 ½ times more mass after just one dose", or whatever you are trying to get kids to believe.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
The individual making the false allegations is Ron Kramer, President and CEO of ThermoLife International.  

STRONG SLANDER.

Again no false allegations were made at all.

**As a side note I wondered how the hell did moderators at bb.com let this slander stay posted? I mean if I posted something like this it would be deleted and I would have been banned. In the long run "the one way street" bias that this thread was OK to keep open is what will eventually be what exposes Gaspari the most. So in the long rung I guess you guys (moderators at bb.com) did a good job and consumers will ultimately have a chance to see thru the lies and deception posted by Daniel Pierce and Rich Gaspari.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
His emails to me coupled with his Internet postings suggest a motive founded in his unjustified but bizarrely intense vendetta against our employee and board rep Daniel Pierce (a.k.a. Deserusan).  

What internet postings are you talking about Mr. Gaspari? Why are you making up so many lies? There is not ONE internet posting and you know it. If there is one post it, if not QUIT LYING.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
Although we have attempted to address this situation privately and amicably we have been unsuccessful, and Gaspari Nutrition will not be intimidated or threatened with such actions.

It seems to me that you were extremely intimidated Richard, so much so you felt the need to try and slander me and post your sorry excuse for why the lab test that was set at a detection limit of 80ppm could not identify the "alleged" .02mg per 20 gram serving you CLAIM to have in the product. I In my opinion these are the actions of a very intimidated person. Could it be that you were caught red handed and panicked?? Could it be you are so confused about what you say is in your product and what isn't in your product that you are delusional? Gee I wonder what it is that has you making up these statements?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Gaspari
Therefore, we feel it necessary to publicly disclose that Mr. Kramer has contacted Gaspari Nutrition and threatened that if we do not terminate Mr. Pierce, he will ?expose? independent testing of our SuperPump250 product, which he suggests will reveal that SuperPump250 does not contain the ingredient Turkesterone.


This is an outright lie Rich and you know it. Seems not only are you intimidated but apparently you are delusional too!

As soon as I told Rich about the test he is the one who asked me "what could I do so you don't post the test". Rich knows this is what happened and I had two people standing there who heard the whole thing.

I never said anything about posting the test, Rich is the one who asked me "what could I do so you don’t post the test" and when he did I said "well as long as you ask, you can get rid of that kid Des cause I was just about to tell you want turd he is and how many other people think so too".

I had even posted in my forum that Des is a turd and I was going to make a point and tell Rich what a turd Des is the next time I see him.

Rich wanted to know why I thought Des was such a turd and after I told him all the stuff that Des said and posted he said "fine, I don't read the boards so just send me all the posts in an e-mail when you get back so I have a reason to get rid of him."

And just like Rich requested, that is what I did.


NO THREATS WERE MADE. This is a sad attempt at by Rich Gaspari to twist the facts and try to make me look like a bad guy while diverting the attention away from the fact that he is intentionally manufacturing under dosed products (at best!).





Regulation is not necessary when anyone with the slightest inclination towards research can learn what supplements are snake oil and which are not.  For the record, I am a huge fan of Gaspari's products, except for SuperDump2Shitty.


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