damn is it possible for a natural to look like this

[Figo]

John cena. Is an attainable physique imo. He is 250 But he is 6'1 also

Please tell me you're joking...

[The_Hammer]

Yes, much more. Gaining mass is not problem.
The problem for nattys is getting hard granny looks.
I have huge confidence to be more than 90kg with fully visible abs in next year around.
But, the contest condition is another story.
Because, in the off season, i am bigger and leaner than my fellow competitors.

It'll be especially hard for you to obtain that look naturally.  Asian's usually have thicker skin than blacks or whites.

[Meso_z]

nobody in this thread is natural.

everyone in this thread uses or has used or denies and lies about his use.

only Mars is natural imo.

[d0nny2600]

nobody in this thread is natural.

everyone in this thread uses or has used or denies and lies about his use.

only Mars is natural imo.

Mars is the only 350lb man with abs in this thread. And he is natural.   

Layne is not natural 

[Method101]

Anyone think this guy is natural?

Seems borderline juicer to me, so much for the WWE drug testing, also look at Batista and Triple H 

[Mars]

yes i am one of the bigger guys here but that doesnt mean i dont have respect for the other folks here, im always helpfull and polite when people approach me.

[jaejonna]

yes i am one of the bigger guys here but that doesnt mean i dont have respect for the other folks here, im always helpfull and polite when people approach me.

Always a good person to those in need

[kyomu]

It'll be especially hard for you to obtain that look naturally.  Asian's usually have thicker skin than blacks or whites.

agreed. But just i do what i can.

[Mars]

Always a good person to those in need

people who dont know me tend to think im an asshole but once spoken to me they change their opinion as snow in the sun.

[kyomu]

I think the difference between for example Jay and Paco is mostly due to Jay holding more water/fat than Paco. And Jay would need more vascularity in order to achieve that "grainy" look .. but the genes play a big role in that.

There are only a couple of factors which determine how hard/ripped/grainy you look.

Bodyfat
Water
amount of muscle
amount of blood vessels

So I think it's possible for a natural to look just as hard/grainy as a juicer if all of the factors above are in check. Ok except for the vascularity .. naturals just usually don't get huge veins everywhere.

Partialy agreed. But, I believe that this blood vessel part is important to look grany hard. And that will be produced by chemical normaly.

[Mars]

partially for kyomu.

[T.F.B]

a gallery of natural lifters...

http://www.superphysique.org/musculation/musculation_galerie

[jtsunami]

both norton and cena were on hormoens are on hormones and forever will remain on hormones,,

you dont understand what true natural is,,,true natural = 9% 180LB 5'10,, anything more is hormonized,,period 

7 pound per inch for male 5 for female,, layne norton naturlaly woudnt be able ot see anything over 200lb at 8-9% ,,

end of discussion

ofcourse cena is on mega doses as in inject evry day or higher volumne 3 times a week bu then gh every day so its all come to every day inject


gh15 approved

truth spoken