My point is. Setting a weight to work out with without any rules and standard how the form should be is useless. That's why I never care when gym people claim their poundage in gym exercises. They can lift however they want without any rules and standard. When u ask a powerlifter for an example, you always have something to relate to bcz everybody are following the same rule when lifting, or any other sport where u compete and have judges to make sure u follow the standards.