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President Obama told me to stop ‘demeaning’ him, says Rep. Conyers 
 Source: The Hill



President Obama told me to stop ‘demeaning’ him, says Rep. Conyers
By Molly K. Hooper - 12/08/09 06:00 AM ET

President Barack Obama recently called Rep. John Conyers Jr. to express his frustrations with the Judiciary Committee chairman’s criticism.

In an interview with The Hill, Conyers said his opinions of Obama’s policies on healthcare reform and the war in Afghanistan have not sat well with the president.

According to the lawmaker, the president picked up the phone several weeks ago to find out why Conyers was “demeaning” him.

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Conyers, the second-longest-serving member of the House, said, “Obama called me and told me that he heard that I was demeaning him and I had to explain to him that it wasn’t anything personal, it was an honest difference on the issues. And he said, ‘Well, let’s talk about it.’”

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Oh boy, this is not going to end well. 

And seriously, the CBC should be pissed off, Obama shot his wad on the Wall Street bailouts and left these folks in the barn. 


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President Obama told me to stop ‘demeaning’ him, says Rep. Conyers
By Molly K. Hooper - 12/08/09 06:00 AM ET
President Barack Obama recently called Rep. John Conyers Jr. to express his frustrations with the Judiciary Committee chairman’s criticism.


In an interview with The Hill, Conyers said his opinions of Obama’s policies on healthcare reform and the war in Afghanistan have not sat well with the president.



According to the lawmaker, the president picked up the phone several weeks ago to  find out why  Conyers was “demeaning” him.


Obama’s decision to challenge Conyers highlights a sensitivity to criticism the president has taken on the left. Conyers’s critical remarks, many of which have been reported on the liberal-leaning Huffington Post, appear to have irritated the president, known for his calm demeanor.


Conyers, the second-longest-serving member of the House, said, “[Obama] called me and told me that he heard that I was demeaning him and I had to explain to him that it wasn’t anything personal, it was an honest difference on the issues. And he said, ‘Well, let’s talk about it.’”


Sitting in the Judiciary Committee’s conference room two days after Obama delivered his speech on Afghanistan, the 23-term lawmaker said he wasn’t in the mood to “chat.”


Obama’s move to send in 30,000 troops to Afghanistan by the summer of 2010 has clearly disappointed Conyers.


He said he intends to press his case in writing soon.

“I want something so serious that he has to respond in writing, like I am responding in writing to him,” he said.

“Calling in generals and admirals to discuss troop strength is like me taking my youngest to McDonald’s to ask if he likes french fries,” Conyers said.

Many on the left have argued that military leaders routinely respond to crises by calling for more troops.

 “I’ve been saying I don’t agree with him on Afghanistan, I think he screwed up on healthcare reform, on Guantánamo and kicking Greg off,” Conyers said, referring to the departure of former White House counsel Greg Craig.

Craig was a leading proponent in the White House of closing the terrorist detention center at Guantánamo Bay and releasing photos of detainees undergoing torture. Closing the military prison has proven to be politically difficult, and Obama reversed field on the photos, opting not to make them publicly available.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment for this article.

The liberal Conyers has been an outspoken proponent of a single-payer healthcare system and a critic of U.S. involvement in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

He has also been at odds with White House policy on extending expiring  provisions of the Patriot Act, crafting legislation that is to the left of the Senate’s version.

Obama and Conyers have a complicated and nuanced relationship.

Conyers was the first member of the Congressional Black Caucus to endorse Obama over then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) for the 2008 Democratic nomination for president.

Conyers earlier this year noted that he spent most weekends in 2007 and 2008 on the campaign trail trying to get Obama elected.

 “I did whatever was necessary to be done to win. I met with ministers, I met with unions, I met with lawyers, I met with community activists, I met with healthcare people,” Conyers explained in early April.

The 80-year-old lawmaker, who participated in the civil rights movement alongside Martin Luther King Jr., does not shy away from saying what is on his mind.


In mid-November, Conyers said on the Bill Press radio show that Obama and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have been “bowing down” to “nutty right-wing” healthcare proposals in a desperate effort to get legislation passed.

The Michigan Democrat, a friend of liberal filmmaker Michael Moore, said he was “getting tired of saving Obama’s can in the White House,” after progressive Democrats were forced to vote for a healthcare bill that did not call for a “robust public option” and includes language opposed by abortion-rights supporters.

Since the House narrowly passed its healthcare bill, Conyers has grown increasingly frustrated with what he sees as the White House’s willingness to weaken the role of the government in administering the proposed new benefits.

Conyers also said last month that Obama was “getting bad advice from … clowns” on Afghanistan, according to a report in the Detroit Free Press.

At times, Conyers has shown his pragmatic side. For example, he has abandoned hope of moving his legislation calling for a commission to review whether the U.S. government should pay reparations to descendants of slaves. He has called his measure too controversial.

On the morning following Obama’s landmark speech on the war in Afghanistan, Conyers sent around a “Dear Colleague” letter to Democratic and GOP lawmakers interested in joining his newly formed “Peace and Progress in Afghanistan Caucus.”

In the letter, Conyers explained that the caucus “will serve as an informal bipartisan group of members dedicated to reorienting the United States’ commitment to the Afghan government and people by emphasizing indigenous reconciliation and reconstruction strategies, rigorous regional diplomacy, and swift redeployment of the U.S. military.”

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“Calling in generals and admirals to discuss troop strength is like me taking my youngest to McDonald’s to ask if he likes french fries,” Conyers said.

Many on the left have argued that military leaders routinely respond to crises by calling for more troops.

 “I’ve been saying I don’t agree with him on Afghanistan, I think he screwed up on healthcare reform, on Guantánamo and kicking Greg off,” Conyers said, referring to the departure of former White House counsel Greg Craig.


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Can you imagine if John Conyers gave the Gettysburg address?He still wouldnt be done with it.The King of the slow talkers.

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Healthy differences are necessary for any party to move forward.
Abandon every hope...

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Healthy differences are necessary for any party to move forward.

There are differances in the democratic party.Really?Any of the leading democrats pro life?Any pushing for tax cuts?Any like an increase in defense spending?The democratic party is a bunch of sheep blindly following a fool right into the ditch.

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There are differances in the democratic party.Really?Any of the leading democrats pro life?Any pushing for tax cuts?Any like an increase in defense spending?The democratic party is a bunch of sheep blindly following a fool right into the ditch.

Why would the dem party agree on republican points?
Abandon every hope...

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Why would the dem party agree on republican points?

Tax cuts are a republican point?JFK cut taxes,wasnt he a democrat.

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"“Calling in generals and admirals to discuss troop strength is like me taking my youngest to McDonald’s to ask if he likes french fries,” Conyers said.

Many on the left have argued that military leaders routinely respond to crises by calling for more troops."\


LMAO... when bush listened to the generals on more troops for Iraq, he was smart and correct.

When obama listend to the generals on more troops for afghanistan, he is criticized for it.

Go figure!

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"“Calling in generals and admirals to discuss troop strength is like me taking my youngest to McDonald’s to ask if he likes french fries,” Conyers said.

Many on the left have argued that military leaders routinely respond to crises by calling for more troops."\


LMAO... when bush listened to the generals on more troops for Iraq, he was smart and correct.

When obama listend to the generals on more troops for afghanistan, he is criticized for it.

Go figure!

No he is being critisized for putting an 18 month time limit on it, you either go in to win or fucking leave. You can try to play politics with the issue all day, but when all i said and done it's the soldiers who are picking up the tab for this. The POTUS or congress doesn't have to worry about being blown up by an IED or being shot, no they get to sit in the lap of luxury and pretend to give a fuck.
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No he is being critisized for putting an 18 month time limit on it, you either go in to win or fucking leave. You can try to play politics with the issue all day, but when all i said and done it's the soldiers who are picking up the tab for this. The POTUS or congress doesn't have to worry about being blown up by an IED or being shot, no they get to sit in the lap of luxury and pretend to give a fuck.

240 is going into his lib mode again. 

I guess he didnt learnafter palins baby CT's or the shilling for the stim bill. 

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He was incorrect to deliver BOTH a timeline and a list of achievable goals by then.  But let's face it, any president who is ready to leave a place is going to decalre a win when it's politically convenient.  nothing different here.

i dont understand lib mode comment.  I vote repub and libertarian.  I would vote for thune in a heartbeat.  i saw mccain/palin as incompetent and unprepared.

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Strange how so many of the Obama supporters who were SO against troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when Bush was in office, and many stated that was a big reason to vote for Obama, are sooooooooo quiet on the issue now.....or have flip-flopped like their "leader" on it.

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240 all kidding aside, do you ever have an intelligent or insightful opinion; one that doesn't involve an idiotic parallel between Bush and Obama?

Just curious-- Because you seem to be incapable of making any observations about Obama without the first sentence of your response starting with "When Bush did this", "When Bush did that", "Bush had eggs for breakfast".

Get the fuck over it already dude.

He hasn't been president for almost a year. It's Obama's show and Obama's administration. What Bush did or didn't do is irrelevant at this point.


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GW,

I used to spend hours making detailed arguments here.  All I heard for years from choads like beachbum was "hahaha iraq war isn't about oil or bases, it's all about helping people!"  and my favorite, blaming everything on clinton.  Bush irnored the 911 memo... why?  because clinton did this....

on issues like cap/trade, global warming, gun control, aborion, lots of them... i am right with the repubs on them. 

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He was incorrect to deliver BOTH a timeline and a list of achievable goals by then.  But let's face it, any president who is ready to leave a place is going to decalre a win when it's politically convenient.  nothing different here.

i dont understand lib mode comment.  I vote repub and libertarian.  I would vote for thune in a heartbeat.  i saw mccain/palin as incompetent and unprepared.

Ah bullshit, you can't put a time line on a military conflict, you see there are these other guys called the enemy that keep fucking things up. And what happens if the goals aren't met? We just pull out in 18 months anyway? Obama has zip nada zero military experience and I would be surprised if he has even read a book about military conflicts from his blahzay attitude about the whole thing.

What was it that Patton said? "America loves a winner, and will not tolerate a loser, this is why America has never, and will never, lose a war.”
 And he was correct until the politicians decided that war had to be fought in a PC fashion, which stupid fucking ROE's that put US troops at greater risk.

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