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Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« on: December 17, 2009, 08:47:48 AM »
President Obama's Democratic allies in the House have muscled through a year-end measure aimed at creating jobs through a second round of stimulus spending.
  
Dec. 16: Democrats in the House Wednesday muscled through a year-end plan to create jobs, mixing about $50 billion for public works projects with another almost $50 billion for cash-strapped state and local governments.

The unemployed would get continued benefits. But conspicuously absent from the plan were President Barack Obama's recently announced proposals to give Social Security recipients $250 payments, a tax credit for small businesses that create jobs and a program awarding tax credits to people who make their homes more energy efficient.

In a statement, Obama said the House measure offers "productive ideas to respond to this great need" for jobs across the country, while urging lawmakers to do more.
"Some may think standing by and taking no action is the right approach, but for the millions of Americans still out of work, inaction is unacceptable," Obama said.

Not a single Republican voted for the plan, which passed on a 217-212 vote after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., worked the floor for an hour. The measure now goes to the Senate, which won't consider the measure until next year and which generally has a smaller appetite for such deficit-financed economic stimulus measures.

Given increasing anxiety among Democrats over massive budget deficits and the party's poor marks with voters for its free-spending ways, the measure could face a tough road. Some 38 Democrats voted against the plan, mostly moderates and junior members elected from swing districts.

According to documents released by Democrats, the measure would cost $154 billion. But there's also another $20 billion from the federal treasury to keep the highway trust fund afloat.
The measure blends a familiar mix of money for highway, transit and water projects and aid to help communities retain teachers and firefighters. There's also $41 billion for a six-month extension of more generous unemployment benefits and $12 billion to renew health insurance subsidies.

Many of the ideas are renewals of programs started in February's $787 billion economic stimulus bill, which has earned mixed reviews from the public as unemployment has hit 10 percent.

The idea behind the "Jobs for Main Street Act" was to enact fast-acting steps that would quickly boost employment. The bill also reflects concerns among rank-and-file Democrats that the original stimulus measure didn't have enough money for infrastructure projects.
But infrastructure spending is notoriously slow to spend out as projects need to be planned and can require a lengthy contracting process. Many of the so-called shovel ready projects have already been funded.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, less than half of the $39 billion in the measure for transportation and housing projects would be spent over the next decade, with just $1.7 billion being spent through next September.
Democrats claimed $75 billion of the measure is "paid for" with unused money from the Wall Street bailout. Republicans countered that the bill is really financed with red ink since the bailout money would otherwise revert to the Treasury to lower the deficit.

Republicans branded the new bill "Son of Stimulus" and were withering in their assessments.

"More spending, more debt. Same lousy policies that haven't produced jobs all year," said House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio.

Democrats also say that economists largely credit the earlier stimulus measure for the fledgling economic recovery and the improving unemployment picture.

"The situation is worse than we thought and getting better more slowly than we hoped but it's clearly getting better," said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass.

Democrats said that the measure would prevent a double-dip recession by giving state and local governments $23 billion to retain teachers and lesser amounts to keep firefighters and police officers. And it would help prevent tax increases by state governments by giving them $23.5 billion for the Medicaid program for the poor and disabled.


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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 08:50:34 AM »
House Backs $290 Billion Increase in Federal Debt Limit

The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday passed legislation giving the federal government the ability to borrow a whopping $290 billion to finance its operations for just six additional weeks.

The 218-214 vote sends the must-pass bill to the Senate, which is expected to approve it as its last act before adjourning for the year. The alternative would be a market-rattling, first-ever default on U.S. obligations.

The measure is needed as a result of the out-of-control budget deficit, which registered $1.4 trillion for the budget year that ended in September. The current debt ceiling is $12.1 trillion and is set to be reached by Dec. 31.

Democrats had hoped to pass a far larger increase of almost $2 trillion to avoid another vote before next year's midterm elections, but that plan fell apart amid opposition from about a dozen Senate Democratic moderates, who say they will refuse to vote for a debt limit increase unless it is accompanied by legislation to establish a new bipartisan task force to come up with a plan to curb the deficit. That idea is opposed by Democratic leaders such as the leader of the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat.

Another complicating factor is moderate Democrats, who are demanding a "pay-as-you-go" budget law aimed at ensuring that new tax cuts or new spending programs don't increase deficits. Otherwise, they won't vote for the next debt increase.
The Senate is generally opposed to the idea, even though it was the law of the land for more than a decade.

Debate over the measure broke, predictably, along partisan lines. Because Democrats control both Congress and the White House, it was their job to muster the votes required to advance the bill, even though much of the increase is required due to economic conditions inherited by President Barack Obama as he took office. The down economy has cut tax revenues sharply.

Republicans -- who helped supply votes to increase the debt ceiling just last year -- unanimously opposed the legislation, which is required to issue new debt to pay for federal operations and deposit up to $50 billion into the Social Security trust funds that pay pensions.

"We should not be asking for more credit, we should be developing a plan to pay down our deficit so that future generations are not trapped under this mountain of debt," said Rep Dave Camp, a Republican.


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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 09:17:09 AM »
Its unreal. 

I have never in my life seen anything like this. 

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 09:38:42 AM »
Another $100 billion a year for "climate financing for poor countries".

Democrats are a disgrace.

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 09:39:18 AM »
So once again, none of the money goes toward actually stimulating the economy right? It's once again a payout to state and local governments to keep entitlement and social handout programs going, with the other half going to keep government unions in business?

I see theres a little piece in there about small business tax breaks.. and a payout for home improvements that few who own a home can afford in the first place right now...

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 11:53:38 AM »
More broken promises:

But conspicuously absent from the plan were President Barack Obama's recently announced proposals to give Social Security recipients $250 payments, a tax credit for small businesses that create jobs and a program awarding tax credits to people who make their homes more energy efficient.

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 01:05:47 PM »
My favorite is cash for caulkers.Ha,ha what a bunch of dicks.Obama is a failure.Notice jobless claims jumped again this week.The left wing media once again reported it as "unexpectedly".What a joke.

By the way,where is Obama getting this 100 billion for climate change in other nations.

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 04:45:07 PM »
My favorite is cash for caulkers.Ha,ha what a bunch of dicks.Obama is a failure.Notice jobless claims jumped again this week.The left wing media once again reported it as "unexpectedly".What a joke.

By the way,where is Obama getting this 100 billion for climate change in other nations.

Remember? He said from your 'change'


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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 05:20:58 PM »
I'm gonna dig my way... outta this hole!!!

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 07:02:59 PM »
I'm gonna dig my way... outta this hole!!!

Call me when you get to China.

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Re: Will the outrageous spending ever stop in this administration?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 07:46:25 PM »
Maybe we're just "maxing out our credit cards" before we "file bankruptcy"?

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