which one?

[brent2741]

test 650mg x 16 weeks
deca 300 mg 10 weeks
anadrol 50mg ed X 6 weeks


     or

test 650 mg x 16 weeks
tren 400 mg x 10 weeks
anadrol 50 mg ed x 6 weeks

[staxripa]

Ask yourself what your goal is.

[brent2741]

Ask yourself what your goal is.

to be a better person

[staxripa]

Then go with deca.

[jerseymuscles113]

if you Have any joint problems are prone to bad sides or are Jus tryin to bulk up run the deca test and bombs if your tryin to get a nice hard full look run the tren test and bombs maybe replace the bombs with some winnie.....either way you go propper diet and training really determines how good you look

[Captain Equipoise]

Deca cycle = more watery bloated look

Tren cycle = shredded but psychotic/insane

your choice..

[4thAD]

Deca cycle = more watery bloated look

Tren cycle = shredded but psychotic/insane

your choice..

For some maybe, but not all. The only side I get from tren is night sweats, and I feel a little out of breath at times.

[Captain Equipoise]

For some maybe, but not all. The only side I get from tren is night sweats, and I feel a little out of breath at times.

I would say 90% of tren users get those sides, which makes it pretty much the rule. Tren I find is horrible for sides, deca even worse (for me personally) I get horrible deca dick and really bad mood swings (depression, laziness) on deca...this is on legit human grade deca from the pharmacy thru a doc btw. not underground shit.

[4thAD]

I would say 90% of tren users get those sides, which makes it pretty much the rule. Tren I find is horrible for sides, deca even worse (for me personally) I get horrible deca dick and really bad mood swings (depression, laziness) on deca...this is on legit human grade deca from the pharmacy thru a doc btw. not underground shit.

90% complete BS! You have mood swings anyways so no wonder!

[WillGrant]

test 650mg x 16 weeks
deca 300 mg 10 weeks
anadrol 50mg ed X 6 weeks


     or

test 650 mg x 16 weeks
tren 400 mg x 10 weeks
anadrol 50 mg ed x 6 weeks

Both one after the other.

[Captain Equipoise]

90% complete BS! You have mood swings anyways so no wonder!

Ok, we'll see... make a new thread on the steroid board asking users of tren for frequent and commonly experienced side effects... I fawking dare you dude..you'll see the ones I always mention being in the majority of posts..

insomnia
night sweats
crazy blood pressure/heart rhythym
tren cough/metallic taste in mouth when injecting
psychotic behaviour of raised aggression.

[WillGrant]

Ok, we'll see... make a new thread on the steroid board asking users of tren for frequent and commonly experienced side effects... I fawking dare you dude..you'll see the ones I always mention being in the majority of posts..

insomnia
night sweats
crazy blood pressure/heart rhythym
tren cough/metallic taste in mouth when injecting
psychotic behaviour of raised aggression.

The only one I get is finding it hard to get off to sleep but once off have some insane vivid dreams which I dont mind,Ive never understood the psychotic behaviour thing , the only aggression I have on it is whilst training.

I think alot of sides on tren is personal like all other compounds , we are all different after all.
If you have issues with tren and deca then it could be a prolactin side? I know the first time i ran nandralone I was a mess but found this to be dose related so keep deca low when running it now more to help with joints etc.

[Captain Equipoise]

The only one I get is finding it hard to get off to sleep but once off have some insane vivid dreams which I dont mind,Ive never understood the psychotic behaviour thing , the only aggression I have on it is whilst training.

I think alot of sides on tren is personal like all other compounds , we are all different after all.
If you have issues with tren and deca then it could be a prolactin side? I know the first time i ran nandralone I was a mess but found this to be dose related so keep deca low when running it now more to help with joints etc.

Out of the 30 or so people I know that have (and some still) used tren, I don't know of one that DIDN'T get some form of insomnia...from mild to extreme.. it's such a shame too because for what it gives you tren is an incredible steroid (the way you look on it) but the sides absolutely SUCK.

[tbombz]

the tren cycle is obviously going to be the better choice, unless mayeb youve got some injuries or your just trying to be very careful abotu protecting yoruself from injury.

[brent2741]

the tren cycle is obviously going to be the better choice, unless mayeb youve got some injuries or your just trying to be very careful abotu protecting yoruself from injury.

no not really just deciding on which one ive done both and got great results with both but i may take grants advice and just do one after the other

[Luv2Hurt]

Quality Tren A. at 100mg Ed X 10 weeks gave me very few sides.  A bit of insomnia maybe but that could have been fat burners and test/winny I was also using 

Thats the longest I ran that much and was surprised how well I felt on that.  I may have suffered a bit of what I will call "Confrontationalisim" LOL  I was using letro at 1mg ED also which may have helped with the sides.  Overall i feel the sides associated with tren are overrated. 

Now if you are a "hothead" to begin with and cant handle keeping cool on a cycle or in general then the tren may not be for you.  Many people play up the reputations of certain steroids when they take them.

[io856]

Ok, we'll see... make a new thread on the steroid board asking users of tren for frequent and commonly experienced side effects... I fawking dare you dude..you'll see the ones I always mention being in the majority of posts..

insomnia
night sweats
crazy blood pressure/heart rhythym
tren cough/metallic taste in mouth when injecting
psychotic behaviour of raised aggression.

yellow piss
 

[4thAD]

Quality Tren A. at 100mg Ed X 10 weeks gave me very few sides.  A bit of insomnia maybe but that could have been fat burners and test/winny I was also using 

Thats the longest I ran that much and was surprised how well I felt on that.  I may have suffered a bit of what I will call "Confrontationalisim" LOL  I was using letro at 1mg ED also which may have helped with the sides.  Overall i feel the sides associated with tren are overrated. 

Now if you are a "hothead" to begin with and cant handle keeping cool on a cycle or in general then the tren may not be for you.  Many people play up the reputations of certain steroids when they take them.

So much truth here. Sides are different for all people. Some people have more sides than others. If your a hot head to begin with tren could enhance that, but to say it makes everyone psychotic is pure BS.

[Tats]

I personally have ran lots of Tren in the last few years and from my experience the longer I ran Tren (8 weeks +) the worse the sides became so as long as the person stays with a low (50mg eod) to moderate (75mg eod) dose and stays under that 8 week mark things should be good to go. I also think that if your a "hothead" you should avoid Tren it could only make things worse.

[Beener]

Tren is fuckin awesome. Though the sweating can be a problem...when i sweat on tren it always smells way worse than normal sweating...just what i notice.

Deca makes me lethargic as shit. When im lazy, my diet suffers badly, and so my gains do too, and i get fat.  Not to mention deca dick. even if its workin on deca i just dont care as much, i'll be having sex and after a while just be like "ok ive had enough" before ive even finished.

[Luv2Hurt]

Tren is fuckin awesome. Though the sweating can be a problem...when i sweat on tren it always smells way worse than normal sweating...just what i notice.

Deca makes me lethargic as shit. When im lazy, my diet suffers badly, and so my gains do too, and i get fat.  Not to mention deca dick. even if its workin on deca i just dont care as much, i'll be having sex and after a while just be like "ok ive had enough" before ive even finished.

damn fat, weak, lazy and don't even care about fucking....stay away from the deca bro. 

[ChristopherA]

Out of the 30 or so people I know that have (and some still) used tren, I don't know of one that DIDN'T get some form of insomnia...from mild to extreme.. it's such a shame too because for what it gives you tren is an incredible steroid (the way you look on it) but the sides absolutely SUCK.

Seriously? I am not a good sleeper to begin with but didnt have any increased problems. Def made my hair fall out noticeably though. Sucks