Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are Freemasons?

[Hugo Chavez]

I didn't know this, bottom of the page, cool story too:

http://www.heraldonline.com/109/story/974467.html

[SAMSON123]

All politicians regardless of race or gender are a part of the Freemason system

[Hugo Chavez]

All politicians regardless of race or gender are a part of the Freemason system

I actually don't believe that, not to start a war or anything.  I just don't believe that's true, if you're saying they're all masons.

[SAMSON123]

I actually don't believe that, not to start a war or anything.  I just don't believe that's true, if you're saying they're all masons.

I am not gonna start a war...lol. But you can see the depth of affiliation by the clothing they now wear. Have you notice the oddity of EVERYONE wearing BLACK(Jacket) AND RED(tie) clothing. Not to mention a lot of that handsign flashing. I see it ALL THE TIME NOW. I don't know if it is because I am more in tune with it or has there been a heightened flashing over the past two years. Not to mention the vids of Bohemian Grove, presidential inaugurations, world leader political meetings where there is more handsign flashing than the CRIPS AND THE BLOODS. Here is a list of organizations with their ties to the ILLUMINATI/FREEMASON SOCIETY.... There is a David Ike video he did in London called THE TURNING OF THE TIDE where he calls off the names of the politicians and those elite in power stating their masonic connections. I won't post all of the vids because there are 14 of them, but more than well worth watching...a lot of good information in it.

[SAMSON123]

How strange!!!! I've been listening to that Icke interview for the last hour and you post it  haha, strange.  I'm to the part where he noted Bill Clinton was a 33rd degree freemason and to the best of my research, I can find no such information.

I also was thinking of posting that interview too.  I though it was a little interesting that the first 5 minutes or so of his talk was almost pure Rosicrucianism.  I was thinking, that's funny, David Icke sounding like a Rosicrucian.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasonspt4.htm

[SAMSON123]

I knew about Clinton in the Order of DeMolay but that doesn't mean he's a 33rd degree mason and that's the only thing they point out there unless I missed it?

What do you think about Icke's first 5 minutes or so of that video above?  Do you know much about Rosicrucians?  The philosophy he spoke of as his own was right in line with them.  odd?  especially from him?

Even though I like Icke like many of the others who expose such information I have the feeling that even they are intertwined in the "ORDER". I have watched vids form Jordan Maxwell, Chris Everard, Juri (forgot the last name) and many others and they all at seem to hint at being a part of the various orders. If they are I try not to get to the point where I dismiss all they say, but instead take the good info and disregard the rest. I hope i am wrong, but if I am right I would not be shocked...

So far as Clinton goes...You will never reach the levels of Rhodes scholar, or reach the point of being accepted in to the CFR, TRILATERAL COMMISSION etc without being "ONE OF THEM"... Look at the chart I put on the last post...The CFR, TRI etc are all a part of the "ORDER"...

[SAMSON123]

I agree with you on not totally dismissing people but rather taking the good from the bad in what they say.  That requires a lot of research so most people just bail at the first thing they don't like.  Here I am years after thinking Icke is a complete nut for his reptilian stuff and I'm listening to one of his old interviews.  It's got a lot of good stuff so far and some, not so much. 

With the Masons, I really don't think they're at the heart of the big conspiracy today.  I think the organization served its purpose, after being infiltrated, for a few hundred years and now the main players have moved on to form other groups to occomplish their goals.  Do they still have connections to freemasonry, I'm sure.  Is freemasonry today at the heart of this all?  I don't think so, I think largly they've been somewhat dumped to the side over the last 3-4 decades.  Even to the point where for a while freemasonry was in trouble of dying out.  It's been revived in recent years only due to increased interest out of hollywood.

I think the only thing that has change with the FREEMSAONS is their names have changed or they are just considered secret societies and even better still they are labeled to seem like government organizations or organizations looking out for the good of man. we hear always about NGO (non government organizations) of which no one really has a clue what these organizations are really about. Even the CFR is dismissed as just a group that offers opinions, when questions arise about it. but truth of the matter the CFR plays a major role in the running of america, Europe, Canada etc. It is a elite group that makes decisions on literally what happens in the world and how governments functions...including america. I take all mason organizations as secret societies with an agenda... and that agenda is always money, power and control. You see every politicians or famous person in business, industry, finance, banking, hollywood etc are always affiliated with certain schools(colleges). You see certain institutions always being called upon to be the spokes person, entity, reference for anything...like Columbia, Yale, Princeton University (high level masonic schools). Here is a list of schools in america with secret societies on their campus (of course SKULL AND BONES is on this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegiate_secret_societies_in_North_America ). Notice the colleges and the impressive people who have come out of these secret societies on this list of colleges.

The belief is that the Freemsons were exposed some centuries ago in France and then they dispersed into England and then fled to america. I don't believe they ever disbanded rather they know the NEED to remain secret (especially after being exposed in France) so they buried themselves deeper into societies in countries around the world. DENIAL is the name of their game and obtaining power and control the focus of their ambition. They are still around and their goal is still to dominate and rule the world...