Why are you defending this gym is beyond me. The guy is just working out minding his own buisness when he gets verbally attacked. A siren and a verbal beat down for dropping a dumbbell or groaning through a set? Of course it's more profitible to cater to the masses but why would you go out of your way to get rid of the top of the bell curve is puzzling. I'm not out to change their policies. I'm just stating their policy goes against anyone who is seriously into fitness. . Again I can't see how you post on getbig and defend a gym that's against a bodybuilder. If a gym is anti (top 1%) fuck them. I also don't care what their profit margin is or what their motivation is for treating this guy like crap. I'll defend my fellow lifter and you can pound the drum with a rationalization of profit margins justification for treating customers like shit.
I started off by stating I'm not defending them. Making an observation about "both sides of a coin",,, seeing from both points of view. Again, there is a right way to do something and a wrong way to do something,,, defending a "fellow lifter" for throwing a tantrum like a child, get real. throwing that db was stupid,,, yell scream, carry on, what ever but that could have ended up bad for someone innocent,,, ie db bounces off and cracks someone in the head, or glass breaks and pieces go in someone eyes, everyone gets the picture. that guy probally wouldn't have reacted that way if some jacked dude employee approached him.
AGAIN, not defending the gym, just observing the fact that business is business,,, anyone that owns a business would understand that to sacrifice 1% of your clientele for the other 99 is the only smart move. cant please everybody all the time, so you go with the most. anyone who owns their own or did, feel free to chime in.
Who knows if he was verbally attacked,,, there was no discernable audio,,, and how fragile he must have been to be verbally attacked by a 100lb chick, again get real.
"Again I can't see how you post on getbig and defend a gym that's against a bodybuilder"
it's because I am a bodybuilder and have been for the past 10 yrs. and involved with the sport on many different levels, worked in gyms etc., that I can talk and be unbiased in an observation. kinda what bb'n is in essence, unbiased observations about physiques, whether it be your own or someone elses.
"The guy is just working out minding his own buisness when he gets verbally attacked" we dont know what was said. stating the policy does not count as verbal attacking.
"I'll defend my fellow lifter and you can pound the drum with a rationalization of profit margins justification for treating customers like shit."
we don't know if he was treated like sh!t,,, all we know is he was approached and spoken to and we saw his reaction. which, again, he probally never had any run ins with the law because he wouldn't have reacted that way. The business has the right, any business to enforce its policies, which any member of that gym are well aware of. It's like going to the supermarket and filling up your cart and leaving without paying,,, what, they're not supposed to approach you and tell you to pay. again, it's not like the girl threw something at him, or acted violently or put her hands on him.
"I'm just stating their policy goes against anyone who is seriously into fitness"
I agree with you, yes it does.
in the free market people are free to open a hardcore gym,,, they are closing because small percent of "anyone who is seriously into fitness" is too small to make profit for them so hence they close. weekend warriors outnumber us "hardcore bbr's" so they get the gyms to cater to them. throwing childlike hissy fits in those gyms do nothing for "our cause" only strengthen views against us and justify their policies, along with potential arrest for the hissy fit throwers.
"Their gym is garbage if you're a real bodybuilder or even into elite fitness"
yes I agree with you. however a good/real bodybuilder can get great workouts by making the best of whats around that he has to work with. where there is a will there is a way. my friends at war in the desert didn't have state of the art gyms nor any real equipment at all, yet they rigged up some pullies with sand bags attached,,, lifted sand bags weights, etc. they made do because it's about resistance on the muscle. there are countless stories in history about people doing similar,,, rigging up home gyms with buckets of water etc. gotta have heart. actually state of the art gyms are too fluff sometimes for hardcore peeps too. everyone here gets my point I think.
Again, I have a gym at home, basement style
, oly weights, cage, basics. thats all anyone really needs. the pf gym is supplemental, for easy light db work, cables, leg machines and once in a while smith. instead of hangin at the bar,,, hang there. it's not a bb gym, nor hardcore gym, you know that when you sign up.mcdonalds doesnt have burgerking on the menu,,, fast food joints,,, pick and choose, free market.
everyone here knows I live and love bodybuilding without question and been on here a while oldtimer, re-read my essay length (lol) posts in this thread. I think the policies are dumb, of course it's sad that they cater to fat middle aged men & women, scared coward twinks that are afraid of "gangs" because of people wearing certain hats, but there are the lions and sheep in this world. everyone knows what they are inside and it can make you sick to see others that are different but there is a right way to do something and a wrong way, thats my point.
I'm for real. look, someone tell me I'm way off here, for real.
btw Oldtimer,
we joined this site a month apart, I'm 1 month older than you though oldtimer
lol
guessing by your name you may be in your 30's-40's so you would know that carrying on the way that guy did was outta line. I'm young but maybe I'm oldschool but, that looked selfish to me, no matter what the girl said. flagrant disregard for the safety/well being of other fellow lifters in the gym when he threw that db. he had no regard for other lifters with that action and he deserves no defense, he's not your fellow lifter acting like that. he didn't care about anyone but himself at that moment why defend him. you would have handled it different.
