Record number of young Americans jobless

[Natural Man]

Record number of young Americans jobless
CHICAGO
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:03pm EST
People talk to job recruiters at a career fair in Los Angeles, February 3, 2009. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson

CHICAGO (Reuters) - The U.S. economic recession has taken a particularly heavy toll on young Americans, with a record one out five black men aged 20 to 24 neither working nor in school, according to research released on Tuesday.

U.S.

Teenagers have found it significantly harder to get a job since the recession began in late 2007, with black youths and young people from low-income families faring the worst, wrote Andrew Sum of Northeastern University in Boston, a employment researcher commissioned by the Chicago Urban League and the Alternative Schools Network.

"Low-income and minority youth, who depended on part-time jobs as a significant stepping stone to future employment, have been forced out of the job market and economically marginalized," Herman Brewer of the Chicago Urban League said in a statement.

Overall, 26 percent of American teenagers aged 16 to 19 had jobs in late 2009, said the report, which was based on U.S. Census Bureau data. That figure is a record low since statistics began to be kept in 1948, the researchers said.

Employment counts the number of people with a job as a percentage of the entire work force. By contrast, the unemployment rate -- which stood at 10 percent in December in the United States -- does not include people who have grown discouraged and stopped looking for work.

Joblessness was particularly rife among high school dropouts aged 16 to 24 who were neither in school nor holding a job, the report said. Family income also had a influence on joblessness.

Only 13 percent of low-income black teenagers in Illinois held a job in 2008 compared with 48 percent of more affluent white, non-Hispanic teens.

The "disconnection rate" -- Americans aged 20 to 24 who were neither in school nor working -- jumped to 28 percent last year from 17 percent in 2007.

"If you included those in prison it would be a couple of points higher," the report's co-author Joseph McLaughlin of Northeastern.

Among the proposals the report supported were government-funded jobs programs directed at the young, additional funding to help re-enroll school dropouts, and government-funded expansions of work internships.

(Reporting by Andrew Stern; Editing by Eric Walsh)






Overpopulation and longer life span, people getting more and more dumb and encouraged to get more and more violent by TV all day, massive flood of unwilling to integrate immigrants coming from the south who recreates their own communities in their hosts countries...... aint going to end well -same happening in europe btw.

[JOHN MATRIX]

'just get a college degree, it will open doors!'

hahahahah oh brother, best scam in history.

[grktownmuscle]

'just get a college degree, it will open doors!'

hahahahah oh brother, best scam in history.

'just get a college degree, it will open doors!'
well if all you want to do is open doors become a locksmith.

[Natural Man]

'just get a college degree, it will open doors!'

hahahahah oh brother, best scam in history.

"just get a usefull college degree" is more like it.

[Aerian]

College degrees sure can help get you a better job but the process of GETTING the degree in itself can put just as many people in debt, that can takes years to decades to recover from. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

"just get a usefull college degree" is more like it.

exactly. theres only about 5-8 that are actually useful, the tons of others the school offers and recommends are 100% useless, but of course they try to persuade you otherwise...afterall they are just in it for the money like any other capitalist business.

[Rearden Metal]

'just get a college degree, it will open doors!'
well if all you want to do is open doors become a locksmith.

Shit, if you KNOW an expert locksmith, send him this way. I have more work @ $75/hr than I can fill.

[pellius]

There use to be a time when labor and business were left to the free market. Supply and demand. You needed work done, you offered a wage and see if there were any takers. If not, then you had to come up with a higher wage. There use to jobs that were so much in demand that you didn't have to offer any pay at all. A person would gladly take it for free. They were called an apprentice. Say, you wanted to be a welder or plumber. Someone would hire you and your pay will be the skills you learn on the job.

Some of the problems started when a third party outside observer, who had nothing to do with the transaction, unilaterally got to determine what a person should pay less they "exploit" someone. I use to get paid a penny a minute for doing yard work. Was I getting exploited? Maybe, but whose decision should it be? At 10 years old nobody else was going to hire me and I was happy as hell to be making my own money. A penny a minute was better than zero a minute. And through this person I got other yard work, later a baby sitting job, and when old enough, got good references to work in a Bar-B-Que place (one of the best jobs I had. All you could eat ribs!)

When you force a certain wage an employer has to pay the less skilled, less experienced, less desired workers get priced out of the market. Even some jobs aren't even worth having to hire somebody for anymore. There use to be a time when a guy would pump your gas, do your windows, check you tires. There use to be dishwashers, meaning people who would actually washed dishes.

If I had a business, knowing how young people are today, and now having the choice, I'd have to be pretty hard pressed to hire one. If they were able to work for less, then maybe. Maybe I'd hire a few of them. And they'll be able to get some job experience and learn some useful skills (and behavior) and move up in the world.

In any transaction, whether you are buying or selling a car, or buying or selling labor, what agreement they come to is between them. As long as nobody is forced to do anything against their will it's nobody else's business.

[marty31672]

obama is partly to blame for the jobless because he's not continuing to invest in the stimulus spending

[slacker]

obama is partly to blame for the jobless because he's not continuing to invest in the stimulus spending

he is a black

[jon cole]

Overpopulation and longer life span, people getting more and more dumb and encouraged to get more and more violent by TV all day, massive flood of unwilling to integrate immigrants coming from the south who recreates their own communities in their hosts countries...... aint going to end well -same happening in europe btw."



the worst is coming...end of the dream

[pellius]

A job is created when someone needs something to be done and is willing to pay for it. Government does not create jobs. When I was hired into my current position of selling pineapples and puka shell necklaces off the side of a freeway it's not the government who called me and told me that they need a pre-skin cancerous lackey to rip off tourists.

What about "government" jobs? Well, who pays for those jobs? People who work in the private sector. If we all worked for the government no one will get paid.

[marty31672]

Overpopulation and longer life span, people getting more and more dumb and encouraged to get more and more violent by TV all day, massive flood of unwilling to integrate immigrants coming from the south who recreates their own communities in their hosts countries...... aint going to end well -same happening in europe btw."



the worst is coming...end of the dream

good point

more and more people who all expect a higher standard of living

[James28]

Only degrees worth taking are most Engineering disciplines (especially Chemical and Process), Maths, Sciences, Medicines, Agriculture and perhaps Business from a top school. Any mom-an-pop degree from a college can at most get you an interview, it won't get you the job. That's what most degrees are good for. Trades are excellent as well, but unless there is some room for progression or you own your own company, expect to do manual work into your 60's. My advice. Get into petrology, chemical engineering, geomathics or petro-geology related career. Every person I know that ever took a geology or Earth Sciences degree, and then specialised with a Masters, is now travelling the world on big bucks working for Shell, Exxon or Total.

[JOHN MATRIX]

we must all move to the northern jungles of Thailand and live off sustainance fishing and snake wrangling to make a living.

[MattT]

Record number of young Americans jobless
CHICAGO
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:03pm EST
People talk to job recruiters at a career fair in Los Angeles, February 3, 2009. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson

CHICAGO (Reuters) - The U.S. economic recession has taken a particularly heavy toll on young Americans, with a record one out five black men aged 20 to 24 neither working nor in school, according to research released on Tuesday.

U.S.

Teenagers have found it significantly harder to get a job since the recession began in late 2007, with black youths and young people from low-income families faring the worst, wrote Andrew Sum of Northeastern University in Boston, a employment researcher commissioned by the Chicago Urban League and the Alternative Schools Network.

"Low-income and minority youth, who depended on part-time jobs as a significant stepping stone to future employment, have been forced out of the job market and economically marginalized," Herman Brewer of the Chicago Urban League said in a statement.

Overall, 26 percent of American teenagers aged 16 to 19 had jobs in late 2009, said the report, which was based on U.S. Census Bureau data. That figure is a record low since statistics began to be kept in 1948, the researchers said.

Employment counts the number of people with a job as a percentage of the entire work force. By contrast, the unemployment rate -- which stood at 10 percent in December in the United States -- does not include people who have grown discouraged and stopped looking for work.

Joblessness was particularly rife among high school dropouts aged 16 to 24 who were neither in school nor holding a job, the report said. Family income also had a influence on joblessness.

Only 13 percent of low-income black teenagers in Illinois held a job in 2008 compared with 48 percent of more affluent white, non-Hispanic teens.

The "disconnection rate" -- Americans aged 20 to 24 who were neither in school nor working -- jumped to 28 percent last year from 17 percent in 2007.

"If you included those in prison it would be a couple of points higher," the report's co-author Joseph McLaughlin of Northeastern.

Among the proposals the report supported were government-funded jobs programs directed at the young, additional funding to help re-enroll school dropouts, and government-funded expansions of work internships.

(Reporting by Andrew Stern; Editing by Eric Walsh)






Overpopulation and longer life span, people getting more and more dumb and encouraged to get more and more violent by TV all day, massive flood of unwilling to integrate immigrants coming from the south who recreates their own communities in their hosts countries...... aint going to end well -same happening in europe btw.

Um you blame George Bush for that.

[just_a_pilgrim]

I did a degree out of school (marketing), while i learnt things i believe i would have been better getting a corporate job and learning like that. When i did leave uni and get a job i learnt so much more within a few months than doing the degree, and now i've worked for 6 or so companies that are both large and small since then i am a long way ahead of many others.

[kawaks]

Record number of young Americans jobless
CHICAGO
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:03pm EST
People talk to job recruiters at a career fair in Los Angeles, February 3, 2009. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson

CHICAGO (Reuters) - The U.S. economic recession has taken a particularly heavy toll on young Americans, with a record one out five black men aged 20 to 24 neither working nor in school, according to research released on Tuesday.

Wow, this sh!t is even hitting bodybuilding boards, when you hear about average Joe talking the markets its time to run onto a new treadmill!

[Meso_z]

why wont they go back to picking cotton?

[Natural Man]

I did a degree out of school (marketing), while i learnt things i believe i would have been better getting a corporate job and learning like that. When i did leave uni and get a job i learnt so much more within a few months than doing the degree, and now i've worked for 6 or so companies that are both large and small since then i am a long way ahead of many others.

When you have no education you cannot advance in corporate jobs. You always stay at the same place, and those with higher educations lead you.
Friendships and favouritism between bosses managers and employees also play a big part especially in "not so big" firms. There are people with no skills or degrees that started from the very bottom in a firm but who were able to psychologically manipulate their bosses and colleagues and who got higher positions just because they are "street smart", they know how to use their emotional intelligence, when the brave "intellectual" worker with degress but no balls or charisma is stil vegetating at the same position since years.

Granted a carreer is based on mor than just education....it requires both well developed emotional and intellectual intelligences.

Having an education cannot be overlooked in some other carreers tho: science, health , etc -these are the only ones i know- there's no other possibility to progress in these fields but with a solid education. You cannot fake your skills in these fields, cause the physical or psychological health of other people is at stake.

[jesusbod]

'just get a college degree, it will open doors!'
well if all you want to do is open doors become a locksmith.

Or a Bell Hop at a hotel.. ;p