my buddy takes animal pak/stak/crak/jak (whatever it is) and says it stinks like shit...I told him it works about the same as eating shit and that the scientific name for shit always started with some Methyl Esther/Ether (whatever it is)
my favorite threads are always ones about dumb supplements, the best thing is that you can update the list on a monthly basis
Lee Priest got magic potions cuming out I heard