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thanks obama for artificially boosting the economy with our tax dollars , not to create more jobs , but to blow a buch of money pissing off our debt holders even more wish inevitably will have to lead to even more taxes and inflation because sooner or later they are going to want to be paid back in full, the only way the government will do this is put the increased burden on the people while the government keeps spending and keeps stimulating with our tax dollars wich will increase at rapid rates

eventually our debt lenders will see that the dollar will be worth alot less because of these policies?

what do you libs think about this, im no expert on politics but stimulus is just a way of spending more money we dont have, stimulus would be ok if the country wasnt in any debt and it didnt come out of our taxes but out of the governemnts money i suppose but that would never happen

why do people want to pay a higher percentage of tax to support the stimulus is beyond me, surely the american people could do better things with there income then pay more taxes for stimulus?


i wonder if there will be evil responses directed towards me from IRS and government workers in this thread because im asking a simple question of how and why more debt is good?
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Wrong target.
Please to thanks all Bankster as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Lehman + heavy economic deregulation and a population living the credit dream.
you're lucky to have Obama.

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Wrong target.
Please to thanks all Bankster as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Lehman + heavy economic deregulation and a population living the credit dream.
you're lucky to have Obama.



u think its okay for obama to allow theft from tax payers and more debt?

sure americans are living easy now but sooner or later we are gonna have a karmatic backlash if things dont change
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Austrian School of Economics, Paul Craig Roberts and Dr. Ron Paul.....please get to know them Johnny, you just may learn something

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JF,

Bailing out the banks maintains people's ability to accumulate more debt. Most Americans can't live without a certain amount of credit. It's easier to bail out the banks than grow the economy or encouraging people to stop buying shit they can't afford.

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thanks obama for artificially boosting the economy with our tax dollars , not to create more jobs , but to blow a buch of money pissing off our debt holders even more wish inevitably will have to lead to even more taxes and inflation because sooner or later they are going to want to be paid back in full, the only way the government will do this is put the increased burden on the people while the government keeps spending and keeps stimulating with our tax dollars wich will increase at rapid rates

eventually our debt lenders will see that the dollar will be worth alot less because of these policies?

what do you libs think about this, im no expert on politics but stimulus is just a way of spending more money we dont have, stimulus would be ok if the country wasnt in any debt and it didnt come out of our taxes but out of the governemnts money i suppose but that would never happen

why do people want to pay a higher percentage of tax to support the stimulus is beyond me, surely the american people could do better things with there income then pay more taxes for stimulus?


i wonder if there will be evil responses directed towards me from IRS and government workers in this thread because im asking a simple question of how and why more debt is good?


eastern country are near the fall.

economic deregulation + massive delocalisation + increase of immigration = less job; more useless people that our system had to support = FAIL.

rich are going to be richer and poor (us) poorer, it's "brasilianization"

it's mathematical.

 
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JF,

Bailing out the banks maintains people's ability to accumulate more debt. Most Americans can't live without a certain amount of credit. It's easier to bail out the banks than grow the economy or encouraging people to stop buying shit they can't afford.

i think you are focusing on the wrong ideas in order to prosper. That doesnt fix the problem the only way to fix the problem is to lower taxes wich=more wealth and economic growth because people can spend more

bailing out the banks with OUR money is not right! im assuming you work for the government only a fool or someone working for the government/bankin system wants to pay more taxes or bail the banks out.

americans wouldnt need so much credit if they had alot less taxes to pay

you have this idea that we NEED government and need to PAY them more

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Austrian School of Economics, Paul Craig Roberts and Dr. Ron Paul.....please get to know them Johnny, you just may learn something

the US is the best country on the planet but its going down hill quickly, why on earth would we adopt economic policies of a fucked country like that?

Looking at the numbers, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics we have about 21,374,000 or so people living in this country. Our combined national debt (taking all government, personal, private and business debt into account) is $2.32 trillion ($3.4 trillion including equity) as of September last year - and growing. A falling Aussie dollar makes it more expensive to repay, or roll over.



i swear all u libs are posting from other countries or you work for the tax man and the government now i see why getbig has it so damn twisted, you guys want the US to fail LOL its a crying shame obamo followers dont see this
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eastern country are near the fall.

economic deregulation + massive delocalisation + increase of immigration = less job; more useless people that our system had to support = FAIL.

rich are going to be richer and poor (us) poorer, it's "brasilianization"

it's mathematical.

 

well i always beleive in getting the best man /most efficient/ cheapest man to do the job. So if that means paying an immagrant next to nothing fine, work gets done for cheaper and that buisness owner can grow his buisness easier, i dont really have a problem with that although i could be missing some facts here too

for me i never hire anyone to do my labor, its cheaper for me to just do it myself although it takes longer and i dont get my money as quickly, no american would do the work i would demand for 5-6 dollars an hour, thats the only way i could make double my money off of them, if i payed any more it would be like charity and not worth it for me
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the US is the best country on the planet but its going down hill quickly, why on earth would we adopt economic policies of a fucked country like that?

Looking at the numbers, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics we have about 21,374,000 or so people living in this country. Our combined national debt (taking all government, personal, private and business debt into account) is $2.32 trillion ($3.4 trillion including equity) as of September last year - and growing. A falling Aussie dollar makes it more expensive to repay, or roll over.



i swear all u libs are posting from other countries or you work for the tax man and the government now i see why getbig has it so damn twisted, you guys want the US to fail LOL its a crying shame obamo followers dont see this

Goddamn, you have got to be the most ignorant bastard on this board.....nevermind

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Cutting taxes won't make debt disappear.

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well i always beleive in getting the best man /most efficient/ cheapest man to do the job. So if that means paying an immagrant next to nothing fine, work gets done for cheaper and that buisness owner can grow his buisness easier, i dont really have a problem with that although i could be missing some facts here too
for me i never hire anyone to do my labor, its cheaper for me to just do it myself although it takes longer and i dont get my money as quickly, no american would do the work i would demand for 5-6 dollars an hour, thats the only way i could make double my money off of them, if i payed any more it would be like charity and not worth it for me


unbelievable contradiction.
why are you crying about the system if you support it.
 
capitalism lead the system to failure.
low cost rentability etc,

ex: closing factory in eastern country to open new factory in third world, it destroy job in usa, leading to more unemployement, more poverty.
 
 
 
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unbelievable contradiction.
why are you crying about the system if you support it.
 
capitalism lead the system to failure.
low cost rentability etc,

ex: closing factory in eastern country to open new factory in third world, it destroy job in usa, leading to more unemployement, more poverty.
 
 
 

im crying about certain things that break the system

im all for cheap labor and outsourcing WHY????????/

that gives INCENTIVE for locals to start up own small buisnesses since no one is employing them START UR OWN BUISNESS nock nock on peoples doors do odd jobs, so much opportunity in america, theres always a place that will hire but it might not be as much as you want but money adds up if your thrifty , people in america feel so damn entitled to a fat paycheck

well i dont , i say work your ass off and SAVE your money

this is why many years when i was young i would eat at a buffet for 2 hours to get in all my food for the day, i have always been very thrifty
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im crying about certain things that break the system

im all for cheap labor and outsourcing WHY????????/

that gives INCENTIVE for locals to start up own small buisnesses since no one is employing them START UR OWN BUISNESS nock nock on peoples doors do odd jobs, so much opportunity in america, theres always a place that will hire but it might not be as much as you want but money adds up if your thrifty , people in america feel so damn entitled to a fat paycheck

well i dont , i say work your ass off and SAVE your money

this is why many years when i was young i would eat at a buffet for 2 hours to get in all my food for the day, i have always been very thrifty
Now Falcon has something here, my grandpa cut down trees and built his on house, he never had a loan. Its being smart about money not just getting everything on credit and working at a stupid job to pay for it all.

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Now Falcon has something here, my grandpa cut down trees and built his on house, he never had a loan. Its being smart about money not just getting everything on credit and working at a stupid job to pay for it all.

hell yeah bro, people think its difficult to build a house themselves but its probably the most satisfying work a man can do, plus the best time to build is about now when its warming up a tad and beautiful weather and not too harsh sunlight
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Wrong target.
Please to thanks all Bankster as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Lehman + heavy economic deregulation and a population living the credit dream.
you're lucky to have Obama.



Astonishingly dumb remark.  Obama = Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan.  They elected him and are the main beneficiairies of all his bailouts and programs whether it be the continued AIG bailout, Cap & Trade, etc. 

   University of California  $1,591,395
Goldman Sachs  $994,795
Harvard University  $854,747
Microsoft Corp  $833,617
Google Inc  $803,436
Citigroup Inc  $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co  $695,132
Time Warner  $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP  $588,598
Stanford University  $586,557
National Amusements Inc  $551,683
UBS AG  $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp  $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al  $530,839
IBM Corp  $528,822
Columbia University  $528,302
Morgan Stanley  $514,881
General Electric  $499,130
US Government  $494,820
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