Author Topic: Why compete if it means losing $$$?  (Read 2645 times)

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Re: Why compete if it means losing $$$?
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2010, 08:19:11 AM »
OK...so you snub your nose at the $75K contract because they wont pay your travel and lodging....guess you win!

Every athlete's contract is different, I'm just giving you th most common senario...especially if you're not one of the top guys...
Bwahahahaaha 75k for a 'professional' athlete hahahahaha on top of that they have to shell out about 15-20k on drugs ...i mean ummmm 'supplements'  ::) ::) ::)  ... I made 75k three years ago at my job ahahahahah..... good point chick , really proving us wrong hahaha tons of $$$$ in BB  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Why compete if it means losing $$$?
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2010, 09:05:51 AM »
Ronnie didn't make a dime either in his first few years as a pro...we know how that turned out.

Neither did Toney Freeman, or many other pro's who have gone on to win shows...climbing the ladder has to start with at least having a ladder to climb. No competitions means no experience, no opportunity, and little to no exposure.

The "business of BB" is comprised of many avenues, only ONE of which is actually competing. The pro's you mention all have some means of supporting themselves, the monetary loss they may take in getting ready for a show is an investment as far as they are concerned...

That said...at SOME point, you have to assess whether that investment is going to have a return...

No one in the history of professional bodybuilding ever got into it for the money...

Well said.  Its comparable to a hockey players playing in a low level pro league barely making enough to stay alive in hopes of making the big time.  It just so happens the big time in the NHL, is much bigger than the big time of BB.  However Bodybuilder's aren't athletes, but that's a debate for another day  ;D

They all have hopes and dreams of being the next Ronnie, or Jay, its just a shame that some don't realize they don't have the god given genetics to ever come close.

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Re: Why compete if it means losing $$$?
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 09:08:10 AM »
Livin' the dream.
ah yes, the dream of not working. ;D
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Re: Why compete if it means losing $$$?
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 09:17:53 AM »
Do you make money getting your hair cut, going to the gym, buying supps, juice, clothes etc...? They do it because they love it.  It is a challenge.

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Re: Why compete if it means losing $$$?
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 09:41:51 AM »
You should expound on this. What is a 75k contract after taxes, and expenses? I don't remember the exact figure you put out there, but I seem to remember you once being quoted as saying that your average show runs about ten grand for prep. I am assuming that covers gear, food, (probably the biggest expense), and anything else.

Do three shows... spend an easy 25-30 grand, then take out taxes, and time. Seems like your bodybuilder is left with a job that pays about 12-14 dollars an hour, and that is being generous. This entire scenario seems far too absurd, not to mention highly exploitative.

The only way things are going to change for bodybuilding is to get people to understand it. The only way to do that is to package it in a reality format, and try to expose it that way. There is enough drama in this subculture that if you can humanize the existential aspects of Bodybuilding, then you stand a shot of connecting to a future audience.  


I used a number of $75K arbitrarily...I know athletes that make much more, and some that make less, and some that have no contract...

You use 3 shows as a mark....no problem, but most guys wouldn't spend 10 K for EACH show, as many of them compete in 3 in a row (ex. PHX, ASC, AUS)

There is also no stipulation that your contract through a Supp company, Media, Pubs, etc is the ONLY means of money you can make...many guys have other (regular) jobs as well...so it's money made in ADDITION to whatever ther means of support they have...


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Re: Why compete if it means losing $$$?
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 01:28:43 PM »
Do you make money getting your hair cut, going to the gym, buying supps, juice, clothes etc...? They do it because they love it.  It is a challenge.
daily errands and hygiene are done because working people have too.
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