Question: Do you support Amnesty for Illegals Aliens?

[Soul Crusher]

Obama has said he intends to pursue amnesty for illegal aliens after Health Care.

Question:  Do you support amensty for illegals aliens? 

[kcballer]

I would like to see a financial study on what it would cost to our companies and industries if we were to deport all of them, and i'd like to see what it would cost to tax them and make them residents.  Which ever side wins the battle of the costs would win my vote in this climate.  I don't make this decision based on anything other than economical terms. 

[Purge_WTF]

  He passes amnesty, and there will be violence. Count on it.

[kcballer]

Like i said to me it's an economical decision.  I believe the border should be closed off and policed more vigorously.  But for those in America now?  If we can come out better off by taxing them and making them residents than by expelling them, perhaps we can use that revenue for enforcement of the border.  We all know it's going to be a huge ongoing cost to build, maintain and enforce it.  I'm not against that but i also think maybe we should do something like this -

Tell all illegals that have 6 months to leave or register with the government for a residency status.  Once you have this you will be under a probation period for 5 years.  During that period you are not eligible for any government assistance or welfare.  You must pay taxes on all income and can/will be deported if you are found to be lying or found guilty of a felony.  Like American citizens you must buy health insurance (or have an employer who does) for your whole family, if you do not you will be deported. 

After those 5 years you must prove you have contributed to American society and have ingrained yourself into the American way of life, whether by learning the language and/or customs of Americans, volunteering etc.  You must also prove you have worked for at least 3 of those 5 years. 

All revenue from taxes collected will go towards enforcement of these guidelines and enforcement of the new border policies. 

[Soul Crusher]

Like i said to me it's an economical decision.  I believe the border should be closed off and policed more vigorously.  But for those in America now?  If we can come out better off by taxing them and making them residents than by expelling them, perhaps we can use that revenue for enforcement of the border.  We all know it's going to be a huge ongoing cost to build, maintain and enforce it.  I'm not against that but i also think maybe we should do something like this -

Tell all illegals that have 6 months to leave or register with the government for a residency status.  Once you have this you will be under a probation period for 5 years.  During that period you are not eligible for any government assistance or welfare.  You must pay taxes on all income and can/will be deported if you are found to be lying or found guilty of a felony.  Like American citizens you must buy health insurance (or have an employer who does) for your whole family, if you do not you will be deported. 

After those 5 years you must prove you have contributed to American society and have ingrained yourself into the American way of life, whether by learning the language and/or customs of Americans, volunteering etc.  You must also prove you have worked for at least 3 of those 5 years. 

All revenue from taxes collected will go towards enforcement of these guidelines and enforcement of the new border policies. 

Why dont we require 2 citizens personally guaranty any illegals for all costs to the tasxpayer like we do when a normal immigrant is processed?  Or have something where they have to post collateral and a bond?

If that happens - 95% wont make the cut and will have to go home. 

We dont have an immigration problem, we have an enforcement problem. 

[kcballer]

Why dont we require 2 citizens personally guaranty any illegals for all costs to the tasxpayer like we do when a normal immigrant is processed?  Or have something where they have to post collateral and a bond?

If that happens - 95% wont make the cut and will have to go home. 

We dont have an immigration problem, we have an enforcement problem. 

We could do that for sure.  Although i think it would be a little troublesome.  You'd find 'citizens' who would charge out their sponsorship services like bondsman. 

[12secGT]

Obama has said he intends to pursue amnesty for illegal aliens after Health Care.

Question:  Do you support amensty for illegals aliens? 

No chance.

[tonymctones]

Like i said to me it's an economical decision.  I believe the border should be closed off and policed more vigorously.  But for those in America now?  If we can come out better off by taxing them and making them residents than by expelling them, perhaps we can use that revenue for enforcement of the border.  We all know it's going to be a huge ongoing cost to build, maintain and enforce it.  I'm not against that but i also think maybe we should do something like this -

Tell all illegals that have 6 months to leave or register with the government for a residency status.  Once you have this you will be under a probation period for 5 years.  During that period you are not eligible for any government assistance or welfare.  You must pay taxes on all income and can/will be deported if you are found to be lying or found guilty of a felony.  Like American citizens you must buy health insurance (or have an employer who does) for your whole family, if you do not you will be deported. 

After those 5 years you must prove you have contributed to American society and have ingrained yourself into the American way of life, whether by learning the language and/or customs of Americans, volunteering etc.  You must also prove you have worked for at least 3 of those 5 years. 

All revenue from taxes collected will go towards enforcement of these guidelines and enforcement of the new border policies. 

what makes you think that any of these provisions will be better than any of the ones we have now? LOL this isnt about laws etc...this is about enforcing laws

[Dos Equis]

  He passes amnesty, and there will be violence. Count on it.

lol   

No. 

[kcballer]

what makes you think that any of these provisions will be better than any of the ones we have now? LOL this isnt about laws etc...this is about enforcing laws

Yes because we have so much money to hire new police and enforcement agents not to mention our industries don't rely on cheap labor at all right?

 

[The Showstoppa]

No

[Hereford]

Like i said to me it's an economical decision.  I believe the border should be closed off and policed more vigorously.  But for those in America now?  If we can come out better off by taxing them and making them residents than by expelling them, perhaps we can use that revenue for enforcement of the border.  We all know it's going to be a huge ongoing cost to build, maintain and enforce it.  I'm not against that but i also think maybe we should do something like this -

Tell all illegals that have 6 months to leave or register with the government for a residency status.  Once you have this you will be under a probation period for 5 years.  During that period you are not eligible for any government assistance or welfare.  You must pay taxes on all income and can/will be deported if you are found to be lying or found guilty of a felony.  Like American citizens you must buy health insurance (or have an employer who does) for your whole family, if you do not you will be deported. 

After those 5 years you must prove you have contributed to American society and have ingrained yourself into the American way of life, whether by learning the language and/or customs of Americans, volunteering etc.  You must also prove you have worked for at least 3 of those 5 years. 

All revenue from taxes collected will go towards enforcement of these guidelines and enforcement of the new border policies. 

Makes sense to me. Good call kc.


However the ACLU types would come off their tits if you tried to keep track o them a la ID card stype.

[Hugo Chavez]

no

[loco]

NO

Illegal immigrants are being courted to work for USA's meat packing giants and then they are being deported in arrangements that the meat companies have with US immigration so that their production lines are not affected.  It's your own meat corporations and your own government doing this to you.

[240 is Back]

333386, your Baby girl Palin supports Amnesty for illegals.  Read the entire transcript.  She then goes on to explain that she's doing it for votes!

Q: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.
I wish that there were more hours in the day so that we can get out there and to more of the communities with such the strong Latino vote that is out there and really tell them that we desire to work for them.

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002985.html

[Mons Venus]

Obama has said he intends to pursue amnesty for illegal aliens after Health Care.

Question:  Do you support amensty for illegals aliens? 

NO!

[Soul Crusher]

333386, your Baby girl Palin supports Amnesty for illegals.  Read the entire transcript.  She then goes on to explain that she's doing it for votes!

Q: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.
I wish that there were more hours in the day so that we can get out there and to more of the communities with such the strong Latino vote that is out there and really tell them that we desire to work for them.

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002985.html

Since when does she speak for me?  

Personally, I would bring the troops home and place them on the border, give illegals 90 days to pack up an leave, imprison employers, have an ice officer at every jail, hospital, and school, and cut of all benes for all these people.

[Mons Venus]

Since when does she speak for me?  

Personally, I would bring the troops home and place them on the border, give illegals 90 days to pack up an leave, imprison employers, have an ice officer at every jail, hospital, and school, and cut of all benes for all these people.

Hahaha   3333's has been licking Palins ass for MONTHS. 

[240 is Back]

I didn't say she spoke for you.

To me, it's just troubling.  many people liked her because she was supposed to represent everything right with America.

but she is FOR capping emissions, she is FOR amnesty, she was FOR the Bailout.  She sounds more like a RINO every day - those are 3 of the 4 biggest Lib platforms (healthcare being the 4th) and she's with OBAMA on the issues

[Soul Crusher]

I didn't say she spoke for you.

To me, it's just troubling.  many people liked her because she was supposed to represent everything right with America.

but she is FOR capping emissions, she is FOR amnesty, she was FOR the Bailout.  She sounds more like a RINO every day - those are 3 of the 4 biggest Lib platforms (healthcare being the 4th) and she's with OBAMA on the issues

And I have told you now for 2 months I have soured on her a bit. 

As for Mons - bro - please come to NYC - I have a sabot slug for your head. 

[240 is Back]

She declared herself the leading voice of the Tea Party movement.  She was the keynote speaker at their inaugural convention.  And she's with obama on 3/4 biggest issues.


Ron Paul should run in 2012.  I bet FOX wouldn't smear him while cheerleading Rudy again...