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GOP Senator Bob Corker was emphatic on Wednesday that Republicans missed a big opportunity to influence what is perhaps the most ambitious financial reform bill to pass through the Senate since the Great Depression.

Republicans declined to offer any amendments during Monday's scheduled mark-up of the bill, choosing instead to vote against sending the legislation to the Senate floor strictly along party lines. It passed out of the Senate Banking Committee with 13 Democrats in favor and 10 Republicans opposed.

Failing to reach a bipartisan deal in committee was "a very large strategic mistake," the Tennessee senator told reporters after his speech before a U.S. Chamber of Commerce summit in Washington. Declining to offer amendments, and then passing the bill out of committee along party lines, "talks about how dysfunctional, how dysfunctional we have been as a committee and the Senate has been in addressing this issue," Corker said in reference to financial reform.

Prior to Monday's meeting, Corker told the Huffington Post that, "You're probably going to witness one of the most dysfunctional committee meetings in Senate history."

On Wednesday, his tone remained the same.

"We had an opportunity to pass out a bill out of our committee in a bipartisan way, and then stand on the Senate floor and hold hands and say that we would keep amendments that were unnecessary and improper from coming onto this bill," Corker said. "Instead of that, it's been decided that we are going to try to negotiate now ...

"I think it's going to be far more difficult now that this has passed out of committee ... I think we have made a very, very large mistake, and I regret that."

Banking committee Chairman Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) told HuffPost that "what [Corker] said was his Republican leadership abandoned him."

"They decided they wanted to say 'No' again," Dodd said. "So we went ahead ... If you don't even want to offer yours, I couldn't -- if anyone wanted to offer amendments, I would have been there. They made a decision not to. That was their call. Not mine. And listen, I understand why they wanted to do it."

Corker blamed Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the committee, for failing to reach a compromise on legislation with Dodd last year, reports Marketwatch.

"It would have been better had Senator Shelby negotiated a bipartisan bill last September, October or November," Corker said. "We could have had a bipartisan bill that passed." [It should be noted that Dodd didn't begin working with Shelby until November]

Part of Corker's regret going forward stems from the difficulty that Republicans may have in staying unified.

"It's going to be very, very difficult -- very difficult -- to get 41 members to hold, especially, especially if many of the provisions in this bill address concerns that everyday people on Main Street have," said Corker. "That's why I thought it was so important to leave that committee -- maybe lose three Republicans, lose three Democrats -- but to end up with a middle-of-the-road bill that we can all hold hands and fight off amendments."

After talks between Dodd and the top Republican on the committee, Richard Shelby of Alabama, hit an impasse, Dodd reached out to Corker. The two began negotiating on the bill, but again Dodd and a Republican failed to reach agreement.

The sticking point has been the proposed consumer financial protection agency, a dedicated entity to be charged with protecting borrowers from abusive lenders. Progressive Democrats want an independent agency to look after consumers; Republicans -- and some bank-friendly Democrats -- want the new unit to either be a part of a bank regulator, subject to the whims of a bank regulator, or simply not be formed at all. Corker, like Shelby, opposes an independent agency. Corker has called it a "nonstarter."

The political problem, Corker said, is that the fight to fix the nation's broken financial system is fundamentally different from the fight to reform health care or health insurance.

"You don't pull the game book out for health care -- I'm sorry -- and apply that to financial reform. And anybody who's thought that -- and unfortunately I think there have been people who've thought that -- are way mistaken. I'm sorry -- there's a whole different dynamic around financial reform," Corker said. "That's why I've worked so hard and, you know, almost begged Chairman Dodd ... to please let's do this in a bipartisan way."

Republicans had their chance, but squandered it, he said. Asked about the deal apparently reached over the weekend to not offer any amendments, Corker said: "To be candid, by the time this weekend came, the real issue was when will the negotiations end."

"The leverage that existed up until Monday night is gone, and I think it's far more difficult to get us where we need to go as a country, and I regret that," he added.

But last week, the president and CEO of the American Bankers Association, Ed Yingling, had a different perspective, arguing that the more time passes, the more emboldened Republicans can be.

"From the Republicans' point of view every week that passes is, say Senator Shelby, more leverage. And a lot of what this is about is leverage to get your best deal," Yingling told a crowd of bankers at an ABA summit. "So it's in the interest of the Republicans to slow things down because that gives them more leverage to negotiate."

Asked if the decision not to debate the bill Monday was "the [Republican] leadership's initiative ... or Senator Shelby's," Corker replied:

"You know, for some reason ... I don't know, you can probe into this yourself, there hasn't been a desire to get us in a bipartisan place, and I find that...let me say this: All I can say is negotiations between Senator Shelby and Senator Dodd just never worked. They never went anywhere. I don't know what the reason was."

But for now, Corker said he'll go along with the Republican leadership.

"I'm going to fold in behind Senator Shelby and continue to work in an appropriate, positive way, and I hope we're going to get there," Corker said. "I'm not giving up. I'm just saying that when a bill leaves a committee like it left this week, without bipartisan support, and it goes to the floor in a dynamic like we have right now, where the White House is very emboldened, I think that creates lots of issues."


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Re: GOP senator 'abandoned' by his party - party of no yet again...
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 09:48:03 AM »
cue 333 and other tbag nutjobs to start calling this guy a traitor and start throwing bricks through his window and leaving death threats on his voicemail

it's what any patriotic american insane person would do

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 09:52:15 AM »
Just what we need, more govt agencies.   ::)  ::)

Harry Markopolis handed Madoff to the SEC on a platter in 2001 and three subsequent times thereafter and they still didnt do shit.  Do you really think a new govt agency, when the existing ones cant do the job, is going to really do anything at all?

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Re: GOP senator 'abandoned' by his party - party of no yet again...
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 09:56:53 AM »
Just what we need, more govt agencies.   ::)  ::)

Harry Markopolis handed Madoff to the SEC on a platter in 2001 and three subsequent times thereafter and they still didnt do shit.  Do you really think a new govt agency, when the existing ones cant do the job, is going to really do anything at all?

Uh the GOP want a bank run agency.  Dems want an independent agency.  This is bad somehow?
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 09:58:41 AM »
GOP Senator Bob Corker was emphatic on Wednesday that Republicans missed a big opportunity to influence what is perhaps the most ambitious financial reform bill to pass through the Senate since the Great Depression.

Republicans declined to offer any amendments during Monday's scheduled mark-up of the bill, choosing instead to vote against sending the legislation to the Senate floor strictly along party lines. It passed out of the Senate Banking Committee with 13 Democrats in favor and 10 Republicans opposed.

Failing to reach a bipartisan deal in committee was "a very large strategic mistake," the Tennessee senator told reporters after his speech before a U.S. Chamber of Commerce summit in Washington. Declining to offer amendments, and then passing the bill out of committee along party lines, "talks about how dysfunctional, how dysfunctional we have been as a committee and the Senate has been in addressing this issue," Corker said in reference to financial reform.

Prior to Monday's meeting, Corker told the Huffington Post that, "You're probably going to witness one of the most dysfunctional committee meetings in Senate history."

On Wednesday, his tone remained the same.

"We had an opportunity to pass out a bill out of our committee in a bipartisan way, and then stand on the Senate floor and hold hands and say that we would keep amendments that were unnecessary and improper from coming onto this bill," Corker said. "Instead of that, it's been decided that we are going to try to negotiate now ...

"I think it's going to be far more difficult now that this has passed out of committee ... I think we have made a very, very large mistake, and I regret that."

Banking committee Chairman Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) told HuffPost that "what [Corker] said was his Republican leadership abandoned him."

"They decided they wanted to say 'No' again," Dodd said. "So we went ahead ... If you don't even want to offer yours, I couldn't -- if anyone wanted to offer amendments, I would have been there. They made a decision not to. That was their call. Not mine. And listen, I understand why they wanted to do it."

Corker blamed Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the committee, for failing to reach a compromise on legislation with Dodd last year, reports Marketwatch.

"It would have been better had Senator Shelby negotiated a bipartisan bill last September, October or November," Corker said. "We could have had a bipartisan bill that passed." [It should be noted that Dodd didn't begin working with Shelby until November]

Part of Corker's regret going forward stems from the difficulty that Republicans may have in staying unified.

"It's going to be very, very difficult -- very difficult -- to get 41 members to hold, especially, especially if many of the provisions in this bill address concerns that everyday people on Main Street have," said Corker. "That's why I thought it was so important to leave that committee -- maybe lose three Republicans, lose three Democrats -- but to end up with a middle-of-the-road bill that we can all hold hands and fight off amendments."

After talks between Dodd and the top Republican on the committee, Richard Shelby of Alabama, hit an impasse, Dodd reached out to Corker. The two began negotiating on the bill, but again Dodd and a Republican failed to reach agreement.

The sticking point has been the proposed consumer financial protection agency, a dedicated entity to be charged with protecting borrowers from abusive lenders. Progressive Democrats want an independent agency to look after consumers; Republicans -- and some bank-friendly Democrats -- want the new unit to either be a part of a bank regulator, subject to the whims of a bank regulator, or simply not be formed at all. Corker, like Shelby, opposes an independent agency. Corker has called it a "nonstarter."

The political problem, Corker said, is that the fight to fix the nation's broken financial system is fundamentally different from the fight to reform health care or health insurance.

"You don't pull the game book out for health care -- I'm sorry -- and apply that to financial reform. And anybody who's thought that -- and unfortunately I think there have been people who've thought that -- are way mistaken. I'm sorry -- there's a whole different dynamic around financial reform," Corker said. "That's why I've worked so hard and, you know, almost begged Chairman Dodd ... to please let's do this in a bipartisan way."

Republicans had their chance, but squandered it, he said. Asked about the deal apparently reached over the weekend to not offer any amendments, Corker said: "To be candid, by the time this weekend came, the real issue was when will the negotiations end."

"The leverage that existed up until Monday night is gone, and I think it's far more difficult to get us where we need to go as a country, and I regret that," he added.

But last week, the president and CEO of the American Bankers Association, Ed Yingling, had a different perspective, arguing that the more time passes, the more emboldened Republicans can be.

"From the Republicans' point of view every week that passes is, say Senator Shelby, more leverage. And a lot of what this is about is leverage to get your best deal," Yingling told a crowd of bankers at an ABA summit. "So it's in the interest of the Republicans to slow things down because that gives them more leverage to negotiate."

Asked if the decision not to debate the bill Monday was "the [Republican] leadership's initiative ... or Senator Shelby's," Corker replied:

"You know, for some reason ... I don't know, you can probe into this yourself, there hasn't been a desire to get us in a bipartisan place, and I find that...let me say this: All I can say is negotiations between Senator Shelby and Senator Dodd just never worked. They never went anywhere. I don't know what the reason was."

But for now, Corker said he'll go along with the Republican leadership.

"I'm going to fold in behind Senator Shelby and continue to work in an appropriate, positive way, and I hope we're going to get there," Corker said. "I'm not giving up. I'm just saying that when a bill leaves a committee like it left this week, without bipartisan support, and it goes to the floor in a dynamic like we have right now, where the White House is very emboldened, I think that creates lots of issues."


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Screw the people?Are you joking?The dems just passed a health care bill that the vast majority of Americans were against.THATS screwing the people!!

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Re: GOP senator 'abandoned' by his party - party of no yet again...
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 09:59:35 AM »
Uh the GOP want a bank run agency.  Dems want an independent agency.  This is bad somehow?

Its not going to do shit.  FDIC, SEC, SIPC, The Fed Reserve, IRS, FBI, etc, why do we have all these agencies to begin with?  

BTW - did you agree with forming DHS after 911?

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Re: GOP senator 'abandoned' by his party - party of no yet again...
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 10:01:45 AM »
Screw the people?Are you joking?The dems just passed a health care bill that the vast majority of Americans were against.THATS screwing the people!!

yeah - except they weren't and aren't

good use of the talking point though


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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 10:02:38 AM »
yeah - except they weren't and aren't

good use of the talking point thought



EVERY SINGLE poll was against it.EVERY one.You couldnt find me ONE poll that showed Americans were for Obama care.There wasnt one out there.

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2010, 10:04:45 AM »
Most of you people also dont realize that most states have banking departments that also are supposed to regulate these things. 

Why on earth do you think adding more govt agencies is going to solve your problems? 

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2010, 10:05:45 AM »
EVERY SINGLE poll was against it.EVERY one.You couldnt find me ONE poll that showed Americans were for Obama care.There wasnt one out there.

I posted this two days ago.  I guess you missed it.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim-Margin-Americans-Support-Healthcare-Bill-Passage.aspx

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2010, 10:09:12 AM »
I posted this two days ago.  I guess you missed it.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126929/Slim-Margin-Americans-Support-Healthcare-Bill-Passage.aspx

And Rasmussen, who polls voters, said people are still wildly against it. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2010, 10:18:17 AM »
And Rasmussen, who polls voters, said people are still wildly against it. 

Billy asked me to show him ONE poll

I showed him ONE poll

since no one has actually received benefit or incurred any cost all the polls don't mean much (IMO)

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2010, 10:19:20 AM »
Billy asked me to show him ONE poll

I showed him ONE poll

since no one has actually received benefit or incurred any cost all the polls don't mean much (IMO)

But they are reading headlines from companies like verizon, deere, and CAT who say that they are going to have to lay a lot people off because of this nonsense. 

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2010, 10:24:26 AM »
BEFORE the vote Americans were against it.Who gives a fuck what they say after.After they are just happy to get it off tv sets.The democrats jammed through a piece of crap that the people are against.

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2010, 10:26:14 AM »
BEFORE the vote Americans were against it.Who gives a fuck what they say after.After they are just happy to get it off tv sets.The democrats jammed through a piece of crap that the people are against.

brilliant reasoning on your part


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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 10:29:40 AM »
brilliant reasoning on your part



The American people were against the bill and the democrats passed it anyway!!!Thats a fact!!Its why it took them a year to do it with a fillibuster proof senate and super majority in the house.By the way,Americans were against the surge in Iraq AS WERE DEMOCRATS and now everyone says it worked.Would you say Bush did that for or against the will of the people?

By the way,CBS poll out says 63% of Americans want republicans to continue to oppose this piece of crap legislation.