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lately... Is this a good thing???  Seems Obama is not having any of the nonsense Israhell has been dishing out for some time. A clear case of feeling to big for it britches Isarhell is finally getting put into its place. These illegal settlements are at the crux of the destruction of the peace process and arrogantly building them just to incite violence with the Palestinians seem to be the only goal.

From The Times
March 26, 2010

Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'



The President was said to have walked out of the meeting, saying to Mr Netanyahu: 'Let me know if there is anything new'
Giles Whittell, Washington, and James Hider, Jerusalem

For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Mr Obama walked out of his meeting with Mr Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a US congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

“It was awful,” the congressman said. One Israeli newspaper called the meeting “a hazing in stages”, poisoned by such mistrust that the Israeli delegation eventually left rather than risk being eavesdropped on a White House telephone line. Another said that the Prime Minister had received “the treatment reserved for the President of Equatorial Guinea”.

Left to talk among themselves Mr Netanyahu and his aides retreated to the Roosevelt Room. He spent a further half-hour with Mr Obama and extended his stay for a day of emergency talks to try to restart peace negotiations. However, he left last night with no official statement from either side. He returned to Israel yesterday isolated after what Israeli media have called a White House ambush for which he is largely to blame.

Sources said that Mr Netanyahu failed to impress Mr Obama with a flow chart purporting to show that he was not responsible for the timing of announcements of new settlement projects in east Jerusalem. Mr Obama was said to be livid when such an announcement derailed the visit to Israel by Joe Biden, the Vice-President, this month and his anger towards Israel does not appear to have cooled.

Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, cast doubt on minor details in Israeli accounts of the meeting but did not deny claims that it amounted to a dressing down for the Prime Minister, whose refusal to freeze settlements is seen in Washington as the main barrier to resuming peace talks.

The Likud leader has to try to square the rigorous demands of the Obama Administration with his nationalist, ultra-Orthodox coalition partners, who want him to stand up to Washington even though Israel needs US backing in confronting the threat of a nuclear Iran.

“The Prime Minister leaves America disgraced, isolated and altogether weaker than when he came,” the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz said.

In their meeting Mr Obama set out expectations that Israel was to satisfy if it wanted to end the crisis, Israeli sources said. These included an extension of the freeze on Jewish settlement growth beyond the ten-month deadline next September, an end to building projects in east Jerusalem and a withdrawal of Israeli forces to positions held before the second intifada in September 2000.

Newspaper reports recounted how Mr Netanyahu looked “excessively concerned and upset” when he pulled out a flow chart to show Mr Obama how Jerusalem planning permission worked and how he could not have known that the announcement that hundreds more homes were to be built would be made when Mr Biden arrived in Jerusalem.

Mr Obama then suggested that Mr Netanyahu and his staff stay at the White House to consider his proposals so that if he changed his mind he could inform the President right away. “I’m still around,” the daily newspaper Yediot Aharonot quoted Mr Obama as saying. “Let me know if there is anything new.”

With the atmosphere so soured by the end of the evening, the Israelis decided that they could not trust the telephone line they had been lent for their consultations. Mr Netanyahu and Ehud Barak, his Defence Minister, went to the Israeli Embassy to ensure that the Americans were not listening in.

The meeting came barely a day after Mr Obama’s health reform victory. Israel had calculated that he would be too tied up with domestic issues to focus seriously on the Middle East.
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Netanyahu tries to play down tensions with US
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Israel blames Palestinians for blocking US peace efforts AFP/File –
Palestinian shout slogans next to mock coffins bearing the names of the sick and elderly, who died due to lack of medical treatment in the blockaded Gaza Strip, during a rally in Gaza on March 27. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has infuriated Washington by expanding settlements in east Jerusalem, has blamed the Palestinians for blocking US peace efforts.
(AFP/File/Mahmud Hams

By MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press Writer Matti Friedman, Associated Press Writer – 11 mins ago

JERUSALEM – Israel's leader tried to play down tensions with the U.S. on Sunday after a rocky meeting at the White House last week, saying that relations with Washington remain solid.

In his first public comments on the matter, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his Cabinet that Israel and the U.S. can work out their differences.

"The relationship between Israel and the U.S. is one between allies and friends, and it's a relationship based on years of tradition," Netanyahu said. "Even if there are disagreements, these are disagreements between friends, and that's how they will stay."

The U.S. has criticized Israeli construction in east Jerusalem — the section of the holy city claimed by the Palestinians. It has asked Israel for gestures toward the Palestinians to help relaunch peace talks, which were about to start earlier this month when the latest spat over settlements broke out.

The planned negotiations were thrown into doubt after Israel announced plans to build 1,600 new apartments for Jews in east Jerusalem. Israel made the announcement while Vice President Joe Biden was visiting, drawing sharp condemnations from Washington and calls to cancel the construction plans.

Netanyahu, who has consistently rejected calls for any halt to building in Jerusalem, got a chilly reception at the White House last week. He gave no sign of giving in to the U.S. demand or resolving the dispute by the time he left.

Ties between Israel and the U.S. are more tense than they have been in years.

Netanyahu discussed the matter with his Cabinet ministers at their weekly meeting Sunday, and told reporters before the meeting that he had taken "certain steps in order to narrow the gaps."

No details from the reportedly tense Obama-Netanyahu meeting have been made public. The administration's precise demands on Israel and what Israel has offered in return have also remained under wraps.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who is a member of the moderate Labor Party, told reporters Sunday that Israel must make its own decisions relating to its vital interests. But he added that "we cannot ever lose touch with the importance of the relations and the ability to act in harmony and wide unity of purpose with the United States."

In Washington, David Axelrod, a top adviser to President Barack Obama, said Sunday the relationship with Israel remains strong. However, he gave no indication the sides were any closer to resolving their dispute.

"Israel is a close, dear, and valued friend of the U.S., a great ally. That is an unshakable bond," Axelrod told CNN. "But sometimes part of friendship is expressing yourself bluntly."

Palestinian officials said they have been told by U.S. officials that Washington is still pushing Netanyahu for further concessions and awaiting his response. The Palestinian officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were discussing a sensitive diplomatic matter.

Israel captured east Jerusalem from Jordan in 1967 and later annexed it, a move that was never recognized by the international community. The current tension surrounds Israeli construction in the Jewish neighborhoods it has built in east Jerusalem. The international community considers these neighborhoods to be illegal settlements, no different from the more than 120 Jewish settlements that dot the West Bank.

Netanyahu says that Israel will retain its east Jerusalem neighborhoods in any peace deal, so building there does not harm the chances for peace.

The Israeli construction plans and deadlock in peace efforts have helped fuel recent Palestinian protests in the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

On Sunday, Israel said it was imposing a closure on the West Bank as a security measure for the duration of the weeklong Passover holiday. The routine measure, which was to begin at midnight, bars almost all Palestinians from entering Israel.
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Obama is simply meddling in the internal affairs of Israel and trying to get his own puppet as PM. 

Throw in a communist/marxist PM and MAOBAMA will be on best terms with them again. 

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  If Obama goes through with what I think he will, we can expect our economic woes to get even worse.

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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+12%3A2-3&version=KJV

  If Obama goes through with what I think he will, we can expect our economic woes to get even worse.


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Is SAMSON123 Pro American after this  ???

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Is SAMSON123 Pro American after this  ???

Yeah, I'm sure Samson might join Team Obama after this.  ;D

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Yeah, I'm sure Samson might join Team Obama after this.  ;D
LOL  ;D

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This is not at all surprising. Obama is serious about peace in the middle east.

Like healthcare reform, most every administration has wanted the feather of middle eastern peace, in their cap. They want peace as their legacy in office, but have not been able to accomplish it, ...although some have come close. Obama is no different, ...however, unlike his predecessors, he has been able to pull off healthcare reform. Maybe he can pull off the middle eastern peace process as well? Who knows?   Fresh off the heels of one major victory though, ...I'm sure he's gonna give it go, ...and as we've seen time & time again... Obama is not a man to be underestimated.  ;)

His approach to Israel is bound to have results imo, results that benefit both Israel & Palestine.

Throughout history we've seen that only the tough love approach with Israel has borne any sort of fruit that the Israelis have been able to savour.



How To Lean On Israel
by Jacob Weisberg

Since the first stirrings of the Arab-Israeli peace process after the Yom Kippur war, America's relations with Israel have been characterized by a paradox. Those presidents regarded as the least friendly to the Jewish state have done it the most good. Its strong allies have proven much less helpful.

This history begins with Jimmy Carter, who threatened a cutoff of American aid to pressure Menachem Begin into returning all of Sinai to Egypt, which made possible the 1979 Camp David agreement. The other most meaningful U.S. contribution to Mideast peace came under the first President George Bush at the 1991 Madrid Conference. When the Israelis refused to participate, Secretary of State James Baker withheld loan guarantees and said that Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir should call him when he got interested in peace. At one point, Baker actually banned Benjamin Netanyahu, who was representing Shamir in Washington, from the State Department Building. Madrid led to a peace treaty with Jordan, the recognition of Israel by many other countries, and the first real face-to-face negotiations with Palestinians.

By contrast, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, all trusted friends, have often encouraged Israel's worst tendencies. Reagan looked benignly on Biblically-based claims of ownership over the West Bank, Israel's occupation of Lebanon, and its refusal to talk to the PLO. Under Clinton, "we never had a tough or honest conversation with the Israelis on settlement activity," former peace negotiator Aaron David Miller writes in his memoir The Much Too Promised Land. George W. Bush continued to ignore the obscene settlements policy, neglected the peace process, and condoned Israel's military misjudgments in the West Bank, Lebanon, and Gaza. These presidents steadily built up Arab resentment while fostering Israeli illusions that there might be an alternative to trading land for peace.

Happily, President Obama seems poised to defy this old dichotomy. That he means well for Israel there's little doubt. "I haven't just talked the talk, I've walked the walk when it comes to Israel's security," Obama told a Jewish group during the campaign. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Special Envoy George Mitchell, and Vice President Joe Biden can make the same claim. Special Envoy Dennis Ross is an observant Jew, an experienced Mideast negotiator, and a longstanding friend to Israel. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has an Israeli father and once served as a civilian volunteer for the Israeli army. That this crew is serious about pressuring Israel is equally apparent. In his Cairo speech, Obama demanded that Israel freeze its settlements in the West Bank and enter peace negotiations with the Palestinians based on the principle of two states, two peoples. Hillary Clinton followed up by specifying what a freeze means: no "natural growth" or other wiggle room, regardless of what Bush representatives might have said to Israeli officials privately.

This is a gutsy step forward. Being a good friend to Israel today means leaning harder on the Jews and the Arabs to get serious about a deal. And even if they don't produce a peace agreement, Obama's personal commitment and evenhanded reframing of the conflict could have large benefits. The perception that the United States is pushing its ally Israel as well as the Palestinians should help America's standing in the Middle East enormously. But to carry off this coup, Obama will have to do the nearly impossible several times over.

First, he needs to force either a change in Netanyahu himself or a change in the Knesset. In Israeli politics, Bibi has always stood for the proposition that the Palestinians will settle only for the destruction of the Zionist state. After a decade out of power, his hostility to an independent Palestine clearly hasn't changed, and it has been compounded by a dangerous fixation on striking militarily against Iran's nuclear capability. But Netanyahu is also a cunning politician who knows he can't survive mismanaging his country's most important relationship. Obama's gamble is that the Israeli public, if not Bibi himself, will take the threat of diminished American support seriously. (See this excellent piece in Foreign Policy about the way settlement expansion undermines prospects for peace.)

At the same time, the president needs to assuage nervous American Jews. If this were any other ally, the next diplomatic steps would be fairly simple. You want us to keep supplying nearly 20 percent of your defense budget? Selling you our most advanced weapons? Sticking up for you at the U.N.? Enough with the settlements. But too overt a use of leverage would court a dangerous backlash from Christians as well as Jews who suspect the president of clandestine Muslim tendencies. Conservatives are keen to encourage those doubts.

So far, Team Obama has gone at the problem in a canny way: by lining up Israel's allies in Congress in support of his tough-love policy. After Netanyahu received his scolding at the White House last month, he visited Capitol Hill, where he was surprised to discover that many of Israel's strongest backers were on Obama's side. AIPAC, which doesn't love the settlements, either, has so far only urged the administration to "work closely and privately" with Israel on areas of disagreement. But there has been some agita among the most pro-Israel Democrats in the House. To convince American Jews that he is leaning on Israel for Israel's sake will take all of Obama's rhetorical powers.

Finally, Obama needs to avoid over-investing in the peace process. To broker a comprehensive settlement to the Arab-Israeli conflict has been the fantasy of every president since Nixon and the achievement of none of them. Even as he presses for peace, our supremely confident president should bear in mind that the odds overwhelmingly favor failure.

Jacob Weisberg is chairman and editor-in-chief of the Slate Group and author of The Bush Tragedy.
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Good fucking job Obama! Finally Obama is actually doing something real.

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Muslims are not your friends, they hate the western world and the people in it.