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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2010, 12:38:52 PM »
I disagree.  A fight is only as good as how well it can be marketed.  Right now, GSP has cleaned out the division and he is getting criticism for boring fights that he does not finish.

With Jake, they can market this as GSP is fighting the StrikeForce Champ who just beat a former Pride Champ.  And, I think GSP would make this a hell of a lot more exciting fight than his last few.

I agree with this from a marketing standpoint. GSP would demolish Shields, but it would be a great selling/interesting fight. Shields also has not lost in years.
It would also prevent GSP from providing a boring fight.

Even if Shields loses, there are some good fights for him in the UFC.

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2010, 12:42:25 PM »
I don't think Shields GSP is good at all. To be honest, I don't think shields would defeat the last 3 guys that GSP beat. It would be nice to see GSP let his hands go though.

Shields has beat a lot of top guys including Paul Daily.  He may not be the most exciting fighter, but he is good.  Also, keep in mind that StrikeForce does not allow elbows.  With Jake's style, he will be a lot more effective/exciting with elbows.  
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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2010, 12:44:25 PM »
shields is such a boring fighter for me to watch...i really hope he doesnt go to the UFC....

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2010, 02:23:21 PM »
He'll be less boring when he is allowed to throw elbows.
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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2010, 03:42:48 PM »
He'll be less boring when he is allowed to throw elbows.
doubt it....the gracies were allowed to use elbow in the early days of the UFC....and those are the most boring fights in the world for me to watch...

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2010, 04:47:31 PM »
doubt it....the gracies were allowed to use elbow in the early days of the UFC....and those are the most boring fights in the world for me to watch...

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Well, then you must not like MMA all that much.  You might want to check out K1 or regular boxing...
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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2010, 05:24:56 PM »
Well, then you must not like MMA all that much.  You might want to check out K1 or regular boxing...
i like MMA....the problem is the gracies and the people that they train dont do MMA they do GJJ with a chance of fighting...

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2010, 09:46:46 PM »
Did anyone notice that everytime Hendo hit Shileds he damn near knocked him out, Silva will ktfo in 30 seconds

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2010, 12:33:07 AM »
Shields won't fight at 185 in the UFC.  The Gracies in the UFC, other than Royce, in the early days of Semaphore, which other Gracie competed?  And in Royce's case, he normally fought from his back using closed guard, so he wasn't throwing downward elbows.  And in the case of Royce, he was subbing guys.  So I don't get the supposition that BJJ=boring when it was a BJJ fighter that initially popularized the UFC. 

Furthermore, everyone trains BJJ in modern MMA.  Wrestlers were the first to use elbows from within closed guard, and do so effectively.  Mark Coleman, Tito Ortiz popularized GNP. 

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2010, 02:25:39 PM »
Shields won't fight at 185 in the UFC.  The Gracies in the UFC, other than Royce, in the early days of Semaphore, which other Gracie competed?  And in Royce's case, he normally fought from his back using closed guard, so he wasn't throwing downward elbows.  And in the case of Royce, he was subbing guys.  So I don't get the supposition that BJJ=boring when it was a BJJ fighter that initially popularized the UFC. 

Furthermore, everyone trains BJJ in modern MMA.  Wrestlers were the first to use elbows from within closed guard, and do so effectively.  Mark Coleman, Tito Ortiz popularized GNP. 
when the gracies first did it, it got popular because it was new and exciting....not so much anymore....this is MMA, not BJJ.....mix it up...

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2010, 03:03:19 PM »
i like MMA....the problem is the gracies and the people that they train dont do MMA they do GJJ with a chance of fighting...

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LMAOOOOO @ GJJ with a chance of fighting. LOLOL I am totally stealing that phrase.


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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2010, 03:05:25 PM »
LMAOOOOO @ GJJ with a chance of fighting. LOLOL I am totally stealing that phrase.


its true....so many people on this board don't know the difference between MMA, and BJJ....it sad...

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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2010, 03:51:13 PM »
There is no one in the UFC today only doing BJJ ::)  There may be people like Maia whose strength is BJJ, but they bring other skills to the cage as well.
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Re: Another nail in Strikeforces's coffin...
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2010, 03:59:31 PM »
There is no one in the UFC today only doing BJJ ::)  There may be people like Maia whose strength is BJJ, but they bring other skills to the cage as well.
there are those that are only skilled in BJJ, and just kinda play it off like they know other shit though...

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