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US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« on: April 24, 2010, 12:04:25 PM »
U.S. military suffers major defeat in Korengal Valley, forced to retreat
James Circello


PSL, April 22, 2010



U.S. soldiers, Afghans dying so that Pentagon can avoid appearance of defeat

The U.S. military has retreated from a base in the remote Korengal Valley, Afghanistan, after spending over four years trying to hold the ground. The U.S. forces even negotiated the terms of their defeat, paying the resistance fighters and leaving them the base fully intact with buildings, fuel, generators and military equipment, in order to be allowed a peaceful retreat out of the valley.

The corporate media and, for the most part, the Pentagon brass have framed the forced retreat from the "Valley of Death" as a "shift" in strategy. This so-called shift has been eye-opening for the soldiers and marines who have lost friends and shed blood in the mountains of Afghanistan, while forced to defend an outpost which U.S. military commanders have argued is "a remote backwater of limited strategic value."

Despite its "limited strategic value," a startling 42 U.S. troops have been killed there, hundreds have been wounded, and a disproportionate number of Afghan civilians have perished. One of the last soldiers to die there took his own life, unable to cope with the daily horrors of a hopeless mission.

U.S. troops used as bait

The soldiers stationed in the Korengal Valley had one mission: to act as sitting targets and wait to be attacked on a daily basis. The Afghans in the Korengal Valley were fighting because foreign invaders have occupied their country for nearly a decade. The U.S. military occupied the Korengal Valley to provoke them into a fight. This is the logic of empire.

The harsh reality that we have been used as nothing more than bait cannot be overlooked. The strategy of Korengal Valley—to place soldiers and marines in harm’s way in an attempt to use them as bait to lure the Afghan resistance into battle so that military fighter jets, helicopters and other resources could be called in to target the Afghan fighters and kill them using whatever equipment was available—has been a complete failure. The retreat should serve as a clear signal that our pain and suffering is of no concern to the officers and politicians forcing us to fight.

Specialist Robert Soto of Company B, First Battalion, 26th Infantry, was quoted in the New York Times. His words offer us a glimpse at this truth: "It hurts," he said. "It hurts on a level that— three units from the Army, we all did what we did up there. And we all lost men. We all sacrificed. I was 18 years old when I got there. I really would not have expected to go through what we went through at that age."

Even individuals from the officer class have commented on the absurdity of the outpost baiting tactics: "Realistically no one needs to be there," said Maj. Ukiah Senti, the executive officer of Second Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, Task Force Lethal, which oversees Korengal and neighboring areas. "We’re not really overwatching anything other than safeguarding ourselves."

Just like the U.S. outpost that was overrun in Wanat in 2008, leaving 75 percent of the troops there dead or wounded in one of the deadliest attacks of the war, there was "no point" except to wait to be attacked. U.S. forces retreated from that outpost as well, defeated by the local population. All the U.S. troops who perished at Wanat, Korengal Valley and every other outpost in Afghanistan died because the generals did not know how to defeat the growing resistance. Instead of admitting defeat, the generals sent troops to an area where they were hated by the local population and left them to be constantly bombarded.

The generals knew full well that they could not defeat the resistance this way; the only goal was to keep them fighting to stave off defeat.

Afghan resistance to U.S. imperialism strengthens

Korengal Valley is a microcosm of the entire country. The generals arrogantly thought that by occupying the valley. they would draw out and kill all the resistance fighters and eventually win over the local population. But their presence only infuriated the people and inspired countless more fighters to resist the occupation. This is the situation in all of Afghanistan. The Pentagon brass openly admit that the resistance forces cannot be defeated militarily. The goal in Afghanistan, like it was in Korengal, is to fight and die endlessly, while the generals figure out how to avoid the appearance of being defeated.

We are now being sent to fight a war that U.S. politicians know is unwinnable, a war in which it is impossible for military commanders to define "victory", a war in which there is no foreseeable end. The Afghan resistance grows and intensifies by the month, as it has since the start of the war. In 2009, U.S. fatalities in Afghanistan were twice the number who died in 2008. The first three months of 2010 have doubled 2009’s numbers. A U.S. military defeat is inevitable, as civilian death tolls continue to rise, and popular sentiment shifts further against the occupation forces.

U.S. politicians refuse to accept this clear fact and will continue sending thousands to kill and die in the mountains of Afghanistan. The same politicians who had delivered speeches on the floor of Congress denouncing the Taliban are now openly declaring their intentions to strike an agreement with them. The same Taliban that was demonized by Bush and Obama, alike—the same ideology that the U.S. military was sent to remove from power—is now being offered positions of power in a new coalition government.

The goal of war in Afghanistan was never to "establish democracy" as Bush once stated or to fight against "terrorism," but to create a government that would be friendly to U.S. corporate interests and serve as a staging ground for further invasions and interventions in the resource-rich region. At this moment, the soldiers and marines, the fighting men and women of the enlisted ranks, are being used as bargaining chips against the anti-colonial sentiments of the Afghan people. Washington must continue sending us to die in order to strike a better deal for U.S. corporate interests.

Soldiers, marines: Fight back!

As members of the enlisted class in the U.S. military, it is completely against our interests to continue fighting this criminal and illegal war in Afghanistan—a war waged on the basis of U.S. imperialist aggression and with the sole intent of becoming the dominant power in the region.

The people of Afghanistan want the same things that we do: the ability to live in peace, free from occupation, fear and death. The politicians in Washington, D.C., and the military brass—from the Pentagon to our Company CPs—will stop at nothing, however, in their attempts to conquer the people of Afghanistan. But this will never happen. The Afghan people will never accept colonialism. They will never bow down or break.

We are sent to our deaths by individuals who proclaim themselves to be our "leaders"—the U.S. officer corps—but this does not have to be the case. We have every right to refuse these illegal and criminal orders given to us by men and women who do virtually none of the fighting, none of the suffering, none of the dying. These officers build their careers on the blood and tears of the enlisted class. They will continue to send us to our deaths, until we stand up and and fight back.



The author is an Iraq war veteran and co-founder of March Forward! who deserted the military, refusing orders to deploy to Afghanistan in 2007.

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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 08:13:00 AM »
The FOB was unneccesary and unsupportable but when u were there u saw oh wait ::)....we just kicked the shit out of them in a major operation in the east and getting ready to do the same near Kandahar. Please save ur bullshit and quoting from a guy who has

The author is an Iraq war veteran and co-founder of March Forward! who deserted the military, refusing orders to deploy to Afghanistan in 2007....sorta defeats the purpose.
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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 12:06:59 PM »
The FOB was unneccesary and unsupportable but when u were there u saw oh wait ::)....we just kicked the shit out of them in a major operation in the east and getting ready to do the same near Kandahar. Please save ur bullshit and quoting from a guy who has

The author is an Iraq war veteran and co-founder of March Forward! who deserted the military, refusing orders to deploy to Afghanistan in 2007....sorta defeats the purpose.


Maybe unlike yourself he turned out to be a smart piece of meat that realized the wrong in what america is doing...
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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 12:39:16 PM »
Maybe unlike yourself he turned out to be a smart piece of meat that realized the wrong in what america is doing...
So because the author is anti American it means he is honest knows what he is talking about  ???  :-\
Wow what a yard stick

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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 07:21:41 PM »
So because the author is anti American it means he is honest knows what he is talking about  ???  :-\
Wow what a yard stick

So he is anti american because he goes against ILLEGAL orders on a war NOT declared???
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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 07:57:48 PM »
The article is a fucking hack job. No credibility, no real facts or analysis.

And wasn't there only about 125 or so troops there anyways?

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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 12:35:53 AM »
SAMSON,

I do my fucking job. This asshole doesn't have the luxury of deciding where he wants to serve. U don't want to go.....u don't desert and hide. He needs to give his college money back and every pay check he ever took then.  These guys are all worthless of pussies...something u have in common with him. Korengal was a tactical mistake because we have instituted restrictive ROE and its hard to support. The vast majority of the population resides in the cities so thats where we're now concentrating. U can't comment...u've never been there.
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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 08:58:16 AM »
LOL, read a couple of the other "articles" on the website.  Another group that refuses to let facts get in the way of a good story.     ::)

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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 06:53:46 PM »
Maybe unlike yourself he turned out to be a smart piece of meat that realized the wrong in what america is doing...

the Taliban subjugates women, denies religious and other basic freedoms, export heroin, intentionally bomb civilians, and throw acid into the faces of little girls walking to school

explain to me how fighting them is wrong . . ?

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 09:16:05 PM »
the Taliban subjugates women, denies religious and other basic freedoms, export heroin, intentionally bomb civilians, and throw acid into the faces of little girls walking to school

explain to me how fighting them is wrong . . ?

Is this the propaganda that you are fed in america? Can you show me these girls with acid thrown in their faces? Should the women be over dressed or the under dressed disrespectful whores you call your women in america? Export heroin?..exactly how does it get to america for consumption? Is it carried on the backs of US soldiers, since they have busted many of them going back to america with duffle bags full. How come the troops  are positioned to stand guard over the poppy fields in Afghganistan and how come opium production increase many fold since america arrived in Afghanistan? Let us not even bring up the tonnage of heroin taken to america by your CIA. Oh and for GOD SAKE what country other than america denies religious freedom??? Are you still fighting over saying prayers in Congress? Still pulling the Ten Commandments out of court rooms and public spaces? Still suspending students for praying in school? After america killed 1.5 million innocent Iraqis who the hell are you to point a finger at anyone for any reason? Let us not even mention that those bombings you talk of never happened until america arrived in Afghanistan.
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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 10:01:32 PM »
SATAN 123
America is not trying to force one religeon over another it is trying to make America secular.
Most herion comes in via the Balkans what the GIs bring in is peanuts
Afghan woman defnitly are amongst the most opressed in the world............. do some research
I am not a fan of everything in the USA but you can say nearly anything want in the USA, try that in Afghanistan and see how long you stay alive

All your arguments are again agressive, blind and hate filled................ its incredable  :-\
 

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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 11:22:28 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 11:25:04 PM »
Is this the propaganda that you are fed in america? Can you show me these girls with acid thrown in their faces? Should the women be over dressed or the under dressed disrespectful whores you call your women in america? Export heroin?..exactly how does it get to america for consumption? Is it carried on the backs of US soldiers, since they have busted many of them going back to america with duffle bags full. How come the troops  are positioned to stand guard over the poppy fields in Afghganistan and how come opium production increase many fold since america arrived in Afghanistan? Let us not even bring up the tonnage of heroin taken to america by your CIA. Oh and for GOD SAKE what country other than america denies religious freedom??? Are you still fighting over saying prayers in Congress? Still pulling the Ten Commandments out of court rooms and public spaces? Still suspending students for praying in school? After america killed 1.5 million innocent Iraqis who the hell are you to point a finger at anyone for any reason? Let us not even mention that those bombings you talk of never happened until america arrived in Afghanistan.


HAAAAAAAHHHHAHHAHAAHHAHH H!!!!!...prove any of this. Did u see the story where the Taliban were posioning a girls school. Answer me this.......when did u serve or travel to Afghanistan. I was there fro m06-07. I saw a girls school burnt to the ground by the Taliban. We can't get more the a handful of DVD's out of Afghanistan let alone tons of heroin. If u want to see heroin smuggling...look a recent Dan Rather Reports on HD net..also available on Itunes. A buddy embeded with heroin smugglers and the UN/NATO teams that go after them.  U have zero...zero perspective on any of this.
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 11:34:18 PM »

HAAAAAAAHHHHAHHAHAAHHAHH H!!!!!...prove any of this. Did u see the story where the Taliban were posioning a girls school. Answer me this.......when did u serve or travel to Afghanistan. I was there fro m06-07. I saw a girls school burnt to the ground by the Taliban. We can't get more the a handful of DVD's out of Afghanistan let alone tons of heroin. If u want to see heroin smuggling...look a recent Dan Rather Reports on HD net..also available on Itunes. A buddy embeded with heroin smugglers and the UN/NATO teams that go after them.  U have zero...zero perspective on any of this.

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Re: US Defeated, Withdraws From Afghan 'Valley Of Death'
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2010, 01:31:14 AM »
I know...ur such an idiot....ur taken up with internet wars proving points and CT's with no perspective to speak of. Ur like TA zero life experience cutting and pasting from nutjob web sites. U don't even do ur homework on the people or sites u cut from. We spin u up, u explode..we spin u up again...u explode with wack job anti-american anti western drivel....hahaah ur an epic douchbag. 
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