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"Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« on: May 04, 2010, 06:46:41 PM »
Florida Education Association now running commercials on CBS in FL showing teachers and student, along with the Herald, all praising Crist for vetoing that senate bill 6 which would have messed with teacher pay in a major way.



The Florida Education Association (FEA) is a statewide federation of teacher and education workers' labor unions in the state of Florida in the United States. Its 137,000 members make it the largest union in the state. It is a merged affiliate of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) and the National Education Association (NEA), and is a member of the AFL-CIO.


Looks like Chris Mathews was right - Crist made a deal with the teachers union and will steal a shitload of loyal teacher votes because of it.  I was a teacher here during elections - and nearly every car in that parking lot had a Gore or Kerry sticker... except mine :)

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 06:53:20 PM »
Sure, Crist did the right thing by vetoing that bill, but don’t expect him to be rewarded for it.  Teachers, like all voters, are fickle and they have short memories.  One misstep on the campaign trail and voters can turn on him.

What I don’t  understand is why Rubio is doing so well given his unchecked spending habits with the GOP credit cards.  He is irresponsible at best and corrupt at worst, yet voters still see him as viable.  Does the guy have to murder babies on camera for people to see through him?  ???

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 07:07:41 PM »
I think Rubio is peaking early on this one. 

You guys should have seen the teachers in every county in Fl marching against this bill.  You didn't see them marching for Gore, Obama, Kerry, against the war, any of that...

But this issue was bigger to them.  Talking about their livelihood.  So just as nobody thought Crist would run - I think he wouldn't run UNLESS HE KNEW HE COULD WIN.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 06:32:24 AM »
I think Rubio is peaking early on this one. 

You guys should have seen the teachers in every county in Fl marching against this bill.  You didn't see them marching for Gore, Obama, Kerry, against the war, any of that...

But this issue was bigger to them.  Talking about their livelihood.  So just as nobody thought Crist would run - I think he wouldn't run UNLESS HE KNEW HE COULD WIN.

Geeze,the 10,000 teachers in the state will vote for Crist.You act as though thats a massive voting block that will turn the election.Teachers are nothing more then filthy scum bag union shills NO ONE cares what they think or how they vote.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 07:52:14 AM »
"Geeze,the 10,000 teachers in the state will vote for Crist"

Do you just make up numbers as you please?  LOL...

There are 162,849 teachers in FL. 

http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salary

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 07:59:13 AM »
"Geeze,the 10,000 teachers in the state will vote for Crist"

Do you just make up numbers as you please?  LOL...

There are 162,849 teachers in FL. 

http://teacherportal.com/salary/Florida-teacher-salary

I didnt know I was using the number to prove a point.Lets see,162,849,how many will vote?Lets say 150,000.So,the polpulation in Florida is about 18,537,969.Wow,that 150,000 will no doubt rule the day over the 18,000,000 OTHER VOTERS THERE.NO ONE CARES HOW FILTHY UNION SCUM BAG TEACHERS VOTE!!!!!There are probably 5 times more construction workers in florida then teachers and they wont be voting for Dummy Crist.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 08:33:47 AM »
BILLY, you're making it too easy here.  let's look at the FL 2004 senate race...


Popular vote 3,672,864 to 3,590,201

Martinez defeated Castor by a scant 82k votes.

So yes, 160,000 teachers do make a difference ;)

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 08:37:00 AM »
BILLY, you're making it too easy here.  let's look at the FL 2004 senate race...


Popular vote 3,672,864 to 3,590,201

Martinez defeated Castor by a scant 82k votes.

So yes, 160,000 teachers do make a difference ;)

Im not saying they arent a big voting block.Im saying you act like this sows it up for Crist when there are over [according to the stats you posted]more then 3,000,000 other voters MANY of which are elderly and pissed off that the health care reform fucks with their medicare.They look at teachers and are pissed off that unions get good health care coverage and the libs[like Crist]want to fuck with it.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 09:25:52 AM »
The state is a majority of registered dems... something like 52% dem, with repubs and independents splitting the rest.

it's not about whether or not you agree with the RINO crist... it's about the fact he's only 7% behind Rubio in a 3 way race right now... before he started running ads.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 09:46:34 AM »
The state is a majority of registered dems... something like 52% dem, with repubs and independents splitting the rest.

it's not about whether or not you agree with the RINO crist... it's about the fact he's only 7% behind Rubio in a 3 way race right now... before he started running ads.

Do you se what you just said.The state is 52% dem. and RUBIO is winning!!!!!Why?Because people DESPISE Barack Hussein Obama,and Crist is joined at the hip with Hussein Obama.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2010, 10:56:04 AM »
Poll gives Charlie Crist 6-point lead over Rubio
By Jim Stratton

Gov. Charlie Crist holds a six-point lead in Florida's race for the U.S. Senate, but his advantage is propped up by a cadre of Democratic voters who may abandon Crist as they become more familiar with the campaign's Democratic candidate, a poll found Thursday.

Crist, who left the Republican Party last week to run as an independent, is supported by 38 percent of likely voters. Republican Marco Rubio is backed by 32 percent and U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, the leading Democrat, is supported by 19 percent.

About 11 percent are undecided, according to Mason-Dixon Polling & Research.

The news is good for Crist, who was getting shellacked by Rubio in the GOP primary, but it may be misleading, pollster Brad Coker said.

He points out that 55 percent of Crist supporters are Democrats and that the governor is getting about 19 percent of the African-American vote. Coker said it is "very questionable" that those numbers will hold up as the campaign wears on.

Many of those voters will likely gravitate toward Meek, who is African-American, causing Crist's numbers to tumble, he said.

"When you see that more than half of Crist voters are Democrats, that's a big red warning sign," Coker said.

Even if Crist holds his lead among independent voters, Coker said, it won't "offset the likely loss of support among Democrats he will suffer as Meek increases his name recognition." About 40 percent of voters still say they do not know who Meek is.

Rubio, meanwhile, appears well on his way to locking up the Republican vote. He gets 70 percent of that group, while Crist gets 18 percent. Among Democrats, Crist is polling at 48 percent, Meek is at 36 percent and Rubio is at 4 percent.

Crist holds a 12 percentage point lead over Rubio among women voters and is tied with Rubio among men. Crist leads among voters older than 50, while Rubio has an edge among younger voters.

Crist left the Republican Party last week as it became increasingly clear that he had little chance of beating Rubio, a former Florida House speaker, in the GOP primary. Recent polls show Crist leading in a three-way race, but analysts caution that the numbers may reflect a short-term bounce the governor got when he broke from the party.

The Mason-Dixon poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. Pollsters interviewed 625 likely voters between Monday and Wednesday.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 11:04:58 AM »
BILLY, you're making it too easy here.  let's look at the FL 2004 senate race...


Popular vote 3,672,864 to 3,590,201

Martinez defeated Castor by a scant 82k votes.

So yes, 160,000 teachers do make a difference ;)

Maybe, maybe not.  You have to look at voter turnout, which is likely much less than 50 percent of registered voters.  Then you have to look at how many teachers are registered to vote, how many actually vote, their party affiliation, etc.  More more complicated than simply looking at the number of teachers. 

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 11:05:23 AM »
"Poll gives Charlie Crist 6-point lead over Rubio"

yeah, the talk about Crist is pretty nonstop down here.  He's getting a TON of the dem votes.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 11:13:37 AM »
"I'm a Republican and Meeks is definately a non-vote for me. He'd be an extension of Barrack Hussain Obama's policies.

Rubio's free-spending on the Republican's credit card to the tune of almost half a million dollars is a major concern of mine because with that, he acted like a Democrat who beleive the American taxpayers are their own personal ATM. There's no way I'd vote for Rubio because of his hypocrisy,

So that leaves Charlie!"

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »
Poll gives Charlie Crist 6-point lead over Rubio
By Jim Stratton

Gov. Charlie Crist holds a six-point lead in Florida's race for the U.S. Senate, but his advantage is propped up by a cadre of Democratic voters who may abandon Crist as they become more familiar with the campaign's Democratic candidate, a poll found Thursday.

Crist, who left the Republican Party last week to run as an independent, is supported by 38 percent of likely voters. Republican Marco Rubio is backed by 32 percent and U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, the leading Democrat, is supported by 19 percent.

About 11 percent are undecided, according to Mason-Dixon Polling & Research.

The news is good for Crist, who was getting shellacked by Rubio in the GOP primary, but it may be misleading, pollster Brad Coker said.

He points out that 55 percent of Crist supporters are Democrats and that the governor is getting about 19 percent of the African-American vote. Coker said it is "very questionable" that those numbers will hold up as the campaign wears on.

Many of those voters will likely gravitate toward Meek, who is African-American, causing Crist's numbers to tumble, he said.

"When you see that more than half of Crist voters are Democrats, that's a big red warning sign," Coker said.

Even if Crist holds his lead among independent voters, Coker said, it won't "offset the likely loss of support among Democrats he will suffer as Meek increases his name recognition." About 40 percent of voters still say they do not know who Meek is.

Rubio, meanwhile, appears well on his way to locking up the Republican vote. He gets 70 percent of that group, while Crist gets 18 percent. Among Democrats, Crist is polling at 48 percent, Meek is at 36 percent and Rubio is at 4 percent.

Crist holds a 12 percentage point lead over Rubio among women voters and is tied with Rubio among men. Crist leads among voters older than 50, while Rubio has an edge among younger voters.

Crist left the Republican Party last week as it became increasingly clear that he had little chance of beating Rubio, a former Florida House speaker, in the GOP primary. Recent polls show Crist leading in a three-way race, but analysts caution that the numbers may reflect a short-term bounce the governor got when he broke from the party.

The Mason-Dixon poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. Pollsters interviewed 625 likely voters between Monday and Wednesday.


Exactly,the dems WONT vote for him in the end THEY NEVER DO and then it will be Meek vs. Rubio with Crist pulling up the rear[as it should be since he is a homo].

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2010, 11:39:52 AM »
yeah, voters have to look past the RINO-like spending of Rubio, along with his questionable practice of working as a lobbyist WHILE working as a state legislator.

You have a dem and two RINOs in this race lol...

Voters have to decide whether Rubio or Crist will get more done as Senator.  Crist can work across the aisle.  Rubio could very well be Scott Brown 2.   Honestly, Crist is very smart, and I don't think he would have ever entered the race as an independent if he didn't have pretty good polling showing he would win.  It's political suicide if he loses - but this looks more and more like a liebermann situation every day.  Crist is a household name down here, and there are a lot of registered independents in FL.

Keep in mind - Crist only has a 25% disapproval rating AMONG REPUBLICANS.
and 20 PERCENT with Dems.

People like this guy.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/15/poll-crist-approval-high-across-the-board/?fbid=cuqPHNEDqFh

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2010, 11:51:19 AM »
yeah, voters have to look past the RINO-like spending of Rubio, along with his questionable practice of working as a lobbyist WHILE working as a state legislator.

You have a dem and two RINOs in this race lol...

Voters have to decide whether Rubio or Crist will get more done as Senator.  Crist can work across the aisle.  Rubio could very well be Scott Brown 2.   Honestly, Crist is very smart, and I don't think he would have ever entered the race as an independent if he didn't have pretty good polling showing he would win.  It's political suicide if he loses - but this looks more and more like a liebermann situation every day.  Crist is a household name down here, and there are a lot of registered independents in FL.

Keep in mind - Crist only has a 25% disapproval rating AMONG REPUBLICANS.
and 20 PERCENT with Dems.

People like this guy.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/15/poll-crist-approval-high-across-the-board/?fbid=cuqPHNEDqFh

WORK ACROISS THE AISLE??Thats EXACTLY WHAT WE DONT WANT!!!!!!!!!We dont need a sellout who STILL thinks the stimulus was a good idea and would vote for it.HE IS NOT A RINO HE IS A LIB AND AN OBAMA SUCK ASS!!

This race is two libs vs. a conservative.

By the way,how is the market doing?How is that old Obama magic working?

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2010, 12:11:11 PM »
I see.  The new poll shows Rubio is now down 6 points to Rubio...

...and you want to change the subject to Obama?

In case you didn't notice - Repubs didn't even get mad that Crist played kissy with Obama.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2010, 12:19:30 PM »
I see.  The new poll shows Rubio is now down 6 points to Rubio...

...and you want to change the subject to Obama?

In case you didn't notice - Repubs didn't even get mad that Crist played kissy with Obama.

Did you read the article?It said that his lead is because dems are supporting him but they doubt on election day they will vote against a democrat.EXACTLY as Ive been predicting from day one.Crist will end up in third and will simply insure a democrat win,which he wants because he loves Obama.

By the way WHAT THE HELL ARE =YOU TALKING ABOUT.When Crist embraced Obama the right was in a rage.How would I expect you to know though,as your watching Olbermann and Maddow  who was praising it as a good sign of bipartisanship.Its THE reason he was getting his ass kicked by Rubio and then cried like a pussy and ran as an independant.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2010, 12:21:29 PM »
"Crist embraced Obama the right was in a rage"

According to polls, his disapproval rating with Repubs didn't change.  Maybe it was the 25% of repubs that ALREADY disliked him (1 in 8 floridians) that were enraged.

Anyway - Billy - how in the world do you explain Crist leading Rubio by 6 points today?

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2010, 12:24:31 PM »
"Crist embraced Obama the right was in a rage"

According to polls, his disapproval rating with Repubs didn't change.  Maybe it was the 25% of repubs that ALREADY disliked him (1 in 8 floridians) that were enraged.

Anyway - Billy - how in the world do you explain Crist leading Rubio by 6 points today?

The article CLEARLY states it,he is getting a lot of dem support.On election day NOT ONE democrat will vote with him,they will ALL vote for Meek AS THEY ALWAYS DO and Crist will place third and insure a democrat victory,which is what he wants.

I dont care what Republicans felt,I care what conservatives felt/.Very big difference.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2010, 12:28:59 PM »
see, I don't care what repubs, conservatives, dems, or anyone "felt". 

I just like to debate who will win the election.  "NOT ONE" Dem will vote Crist... that would be huge.

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2010, 12:48:34 PM »
No, you just like to kneepad for ZERO.   :-*

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2010, 12:53:45 PM »
No, you just like to kneepad for ZERO.   :-*

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Re: "Thank YOU, Charlie Crist!"
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2010, 12:57:32 PM »
YOUR GIRL

Hahaha, a 2.2 in high school. Probably taking classes like remedial English to boot.