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philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« on: May 14, 2010, 09:39:20 PM »
How much should training and nutrition interfere or balance out with personal life if bbing isn't your career? 

Some getbiggers seem to have a great physique and sacrifice greatly for it while others look great and still party, drink, and otherwise goof off.  At what point do you pay dearly for training and nutrition and miss out on some of the finer things in life?

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Re: philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 09:43:25 PM »
Well, I was never one to party or drink. I mean, I like going out with my friends to bars and lounges, etc (more in the past). But I've never been a huge partyer. On top of that, school keeps me so busy these days that I don't have time for much else (except gym and some socializing). Since I am home studying most of the time, it gives me an excuse to just sit home and eat lol
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Re: philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 09:45:52 PM »
How much should training and nutrition interfere or balance out with personal life if bbing isn't your career? 

Some getbiggers seem to have a great physique and sacrifice greatly for it while others look great and still party, drink, and otherwise goof off.  At what point do you pay dearly for training and nutrition and miss out on some of the finer things in life?


 Lately i've been thinking about this a lot too.

 Building a truely great physique takes a ton of time and effort, and then byond that it takes a ton of time and effort to sustain it.

 Also there is all the unhealthy bulking and shit like that. In many ways bodybuilding really isnt healthy. Especially when you et really big and are carrying a lot of body weight.

 I've been shifting more towards health lately. And less towards all out muscle growth.

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 09:49:08 PM »
there comes a point when you realize that trying to 'life the lifestyle' and do every detail isnt going to make any difference. your genetics are what they are, just lift hard and eat and sleep and you are gonna look how your going to look. regardless of if you drink on weekends or live like jay cutler, it wont make but maybe .05% difference.
it will if you are doing all the juice and prepping for contest shape...but if you are a normal person it doesnt make a difference so dont bother with it and dont let it prevent you from living life.

just lift, eat, and get sleep and your going to look how your going to look and theres nothing you can do to change it (other than steroids)

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 09:51:20 PM »
there comes a point when you realize that trying to 'life the lifestyle' and do every detail isnt going to make any difference. your genetics are what they are, just lift hard and eat and sleep and you are gonna look how your going to look. regardless of if you drink on weekends or live like jay cutler, it wont make but maybe .05% difference.
it will if you are doing all the juice and prepping for contest shape...but if you are a normal person it doesnt make a difference so dont bother with it and dont let it prevent you from living life.

just lift, eat, and get sleep and your going to look how your going to look and theres nothing you can do to change it (other than steroids)

spot on

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 09:54:03 PM »
You need to workout 3 - 4 times a week, 2 hours tops each time, which equals 8 hours a week. As long as you eat OK during the week, you can blow your diet during the weekend by eating what you want, which actually helps. And drinking maybe 1 night a week or 2, if you're into it.

You don't need to train twice a day or lug a gallon jug of water with you everywhere or keep swallowing supplements every 3 hours when the timer goes off or anything. So don't see how or why bodybuilding should affect your social life at all.

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Re: philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 09:54:50 PM »
How much should training and nutrition interfere or balance out with personal life if bbing isn't your career? 

Some getbiggers seem to have a great physique and sacrifice greatly for it while others look great and still party, drink, and otherwise goof off.  At what point do you pay dearly for training and nutrition and miss out on some of the finer things in life?


up untill 2 years ago i ws in decent shape when i decided that training and partying 6 days a week ws getting me no where...so i quit partying but continued to train 5 to 6 days a week....and train super hard...

thing is..when ya train THAT hard...you r pretty much useless for anything else productive afterwards...

last year i quit training altogether and got studying...another 6 ish months and i'm home free financially :)
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 09:57:38 PM »
Shortest and best answer I can give is stop training when it stops being fun. The minute that I start looking at getting under the bar as a chore instead of a simple enjoyment, I'll give it up and find another hobby to keep fit with, simple as that.

It's harder for young guys, when you older, thing become easier to balance out, if you're smart.

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 09:59:51 PM »
there comes a point when you realize that trying to 'life the lifestyle' and do every detail isnt going to make any difference. your genetics are what they are, just lift hard and eat and sleep and you are gonna look how your going to look. regardless of if you drink on weekends or live like jay cutler, it wont make but maybe .05% difference.
it will if you are doing all the juice and prepping for contest shape...but if you are a normal person it doesnt make a difference so dont bother with it and dont let it prevent you from living life.

just lift, eat, and get sleep and your going to look how your going to look and theres nothing you can do to change it (other than steroids)

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This always bugged me but in the last year or so I've totally changed my mindset.  All I care about now is getting a good strength and cardio workout, hopefully 3 to 5 times per week.  I eat almost nothing but eggs, bananas, salads with at least 30g of protein, broccoli, green beans, lean chicken breast or steak.  Lot's of water and a bit of coffee.  

Point being, I haven't had to sacrifice too much to get and stay strong but going over the top is all too easy.  The treats have to balance out the sacrifices.  

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Re: philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 10:03:31 PM »
there comes a point when you realize that trying to 'life the lifestyle' and do every detail isnt going to make any difference. your genetics are what they are, just lift hard and eat and sleep and you are gonna look how your going to look. regardless of if you drink on weekends or live like jay cutler, it wont make but maybe .05% difference.
it will if you are doing all the juice and prepping for contest shape...but if you are a normal person it doesnt make a difference so dont bother with it and dont let it prevent you from living life.

just lift, eat, and get sleep and your going to look how your going to look and theres nothing you can do to change it (other than steroids)

I totally disagree

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 10:05:10 PM »
I totally disagree

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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 10:09:49 PM »
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I went from 130lbs to a solid 175lbs (no drugs )best gains came after I stopped drinking and partying .

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 10:12:32 PM »
I went from 130lbs to a solid 175lbs (no drugs )best gains came after I stopped drinking and partying .

So, on that note.. how much does drinking by itself actually interfere with training, growth, fat loss, etc???

I train hard and my diet could be better but is pretty good now for the last few weeks.  But I drink one or two drinks every night.  Sometimes whiskey, sometimes wine, all kinds.  How much is the alcohol specifically affecting my performance and physique?

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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 10:15:44 PM »
I went from 130lbs to a solid 175lbs (no drugs )best gains came after I stopped drinking and partying .

But when did you make these gains? At the beginning of training? Most people that train hard, eat right, and have decent genetics make pretty good gains within the first year of training or so. The question is: are you able to still put on 45 pounds even after a few years of training? If so, then I would say you have great genetics. If not, like most of us, you have reached your genetic capacity. Even if you gave up drinking, it probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
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Re: philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2010, 10:16:42 PM »
So, on that note.. how much does drinking by itself actually interfere with training, growth, fat loss, etc???

I train hard and my diet could be better but is pretty good now for the last few weeks.  But I drink one or two drinks every night.  Sometimes whiskey, sometimes wine, all kinds.  How much is the alcohol specifically affecting my performance and physique?
I don't think one or two drinks would make much difference , I used to get wasted if I got drunk on saturday night I would sleep sunday all day wake up on monday looking like shit.

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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2010, 10:17:46 PM »
I went from 130lbs to a solid 175lbs (no drugs )best gains came after I stopped drinking and partying .

if you gained 45 pounds of quality size drug free then you are a natural freak. good for you but you are an anomaly and far from the norm

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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 10:18:13 PM »
I Think there should be a healthy balance, I mean, you should still focus on your hobby but not let it consume you, doesn't mean go party and get drunk every night, but nothing's wrong with a few beers every now and then and some good grub.

I personally never drink and I never get drunk, not because of bodybuilding, but its just something I never got into, not even in college.  But I still go out often, and in college when I was training and was competing I was still hitting the clubs and going out with friends and having a good time, heck I was even eating out regularly during contest prep, even 1 week out I was eating out, you can still eat healthy when you go out!  I can honestly say I've never really had any relationships or friendships ruined cause of bodybuilding, my close friends today are the same friends I've had since High School, some even from Middle School, and they all know me really well so even though they may not understand my lifestyle, they know me well by now that they know what to expect and what not to expect from me when I'm around!

I think some people take it too far, just gotta balance it out, you can still make great bodybuilding gains but at the same time have great friends, great relationships, great job, all that, its not one or the other.  I believe bodybuilders by nature are very one track minded / obssessive people so if they get into sometihng its all or nothing with them, but that doesn't have to be a case!

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Re: philisophical training question for non career bbrs..
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2010, 10:21:21 PM »
you don't need to miss out on anything

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 10:23:33 PM »
 I gained like 15-20 lbs in my first year after  I started lifting serious then I did put another 20-25 lbs in a period of 8-9 years

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 11:34:00 PM »
I lift weights to balance out being in my head too much and the natural sedentary lifestyle of the IT world.  I have also found it keeps me more stable emotionally and helps manage some chronic physical pain.  Might have a slight addiction to the endorphin release too :D.  Being physically fit also makes me feel better than the American culture I live in.  I believe in a more Roman/Greek philosophy (minus the pedophilia) that promotes a strong mind, spirit and body.  Without the balance......

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 11:56:12 PM »
I lift weights to balance out being in my head too much and the natural sedentary lifestyle of the IT world.  I have also found it keeps me more stable emotionally and helps manage some chronic physical pain.  Might have a slight addiction to the endorphin release too :D.  Being physically fit also makes me feel better than the American culture I live in.  I believe in a more Roman/Greek philosophy (minus the pedophilia) that promotes a strong mind, spirit and body.  Without the balance......

this world/lifestyle will be the end of you one day. you need to make a change before its too late

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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2010, 12:17:42 AM »
this world/lifestyle will be the end of you one day. you need to make a change before its too late

ya...its good money right now but Im thinking of moving to central america to dig up ancient cities and treasure hunt instead...plus the archeologists might need some network support ;D

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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2010, 12:20:50 AM »
ya...its good money right now but Im thinking of moving to central america to dig up ancient cities and treasure hunt instead...plus the archeologists might need some network support ;D

yes!!!! the future of archaeology is in south/central america. just dont get wrapped up in the 'establishment' and let them tell you what to think/find.

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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2010, 01:36:41 AM »

training should allow you to enjoy life more, not envelope it.

training and following a stricter diet for the most part lets me eat 2 pounds of wings, a 1/2 order of chili nachos and 6 corona whenever i feel like it without worrying about getting fat.

there is absolutely no reason you cannot have a great physique and still enjoy the better things in life.
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2010, 02:11:50 AM »
training should allow you to enjoy life more, not envelope it.

training and following a stricter diet for the most part lets me eat 2 pounds of wings, a 1/2 order of chili nachos and 6 corona whenever i feel like it without worrying about getting fat.

there is absolutely no reason you cannot have a great physique and still enjoy the better things in life.
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