Benny in his prime would have been champ. Benny fought even in the heavies., He has an awesome poster in his old office of him fight a guy 220 and throwing him down that looks unreal. His entire family fights. He has the perfect mental attitude. He throw almost all his punches to hurt. I was just thinking about him last night and thought I would throw up a thread. He was probably one of the most famous martial artists in history. They had a comic book of him in Japan. I remember the Gracie challenge as I was training with Rorian at the time and friends with Benny. I can't really remember all the details but I don't remember them fighting. Benny at the time was past his prime and I think he would have got beat bad. At that time Rorian was going around making alot of challenges. He fought a local popular karate guy from So Cal who had a big mouth. It was funny cause the guy wrapped his arms around the top ring ropes trying to avoid getting taken to the ground. That lasted about 3 seconds. Royce took him down and choked the shit out of him. They put out a challenge to the Navy Seals. It ended up 5 or 8 of their top fighting Seals came to fight one at a time. Not one of them last more than a minute. After that and some instructional moves to show them, Rorian got a contract to teach the Navy Seal fighting. I haven't seen Benny since I moved to Hawaii. I was thinking of him because we took a photo one day at his gym before going to breakfast (or lunch). It had some unreal names like Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, Benny Urquidez, Pete "Sugarfoot" Cunningham, Joe Lewis, Bob Wall, Chuck Norris, Blinky Rodriguez, a couple others whose names I forget and little me. What was cool was everyone was a world champion in the photo. I remember Chuck saying "wow you aren't going to see this very often". Some magazine photographer took it and not sure if it ever made it in a magazine. But I do remember him saying he would get us all a copy. Well I never got one and I thought maybe Benny might have one. So that is how I thought about him. By the way for the guys who rag me on name dropping. How is this for name dropping. By the way, anyone know how to get ahold of Benny PM me. Yes I am to busy to look right now. Plus I could only find an email list thing no phone number and his gym is no longer around it seems.