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ObamaCare = FAIL!
« on: June 15, 2010, 10:26:18 AM »
White House Moves to Keep Employers from Dropping Insurance (Obamacare, Fail)
The Hill ^ | 6/14/2010 | Mike Lillis


Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:14:47 PM by Qbert

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The White House on Monday outlined broad new rules designed to prevent employers from dropping health insurance benefits for their workers or shifting huge new costs onto them.

The regulations empower the administration to revoke the so-called grandfather status of businesses that shift “significant” new burdens onto employees — a considerable penalty that would subject those plans to all the consumer protections in the Democrats’ new healthcare reform law.

Unveiling the rules Monday, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told reporters that the changes will make good on one of the administration’s central promises during the contentious debate over reform: “If you like your doctor and your plan, you keep it,” she said. Democrats exempted existing health insurance plans from a number of provisions of the new law as a concession to the insurance industry and business community. For example, grandfathered plans — those up and running when the legislation became law in March — don’t have to offer an insurance product without a cost-sharing requirement. Businesses, particularly large companies, prefer that arrangement because they don’t have to make sweeping changes to their existing plans.

The new rules say that employers can make “routine and modest” adjustments to their premium, deductible and co-pay requirements, Sebelius said, but “significant” cost hikes or benefit cuts would cost them their exempted status. The goal is to ensure that grandfathered plans “don’t use this additional flexibility to take advantage of their customers,” she said. 

“We don’t want a massive shift of cost to employees,” Sebelius said. 

Officials expect the new rules to have the greatest impact on the roughly 133 million employees at large companies, whose insurance offerings tend to remain more stable than at smaller businesses. Labor Secretary Hilda Solis told reporters Monday that the new rules will help “minimize market disruptions.” 

Republicans are not convinced. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Monday that the rules would force more than half of the U.S. workforce out of their current health plan — which “flatly contradicts” the Democrats’ promises during the debate.

“Here’s one more promise the administration has broken on healthcare,” McConnell said.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), senior Republican on the Finance Committee, echoed that message, calling the rules “more proof” that, under the new law, “you actually can’t keep what you like.” 

“Change is coming for a lot of people,” Grassley said in a statement, “whether they want it or not.”

The new rules came on the same day analysts at PricewaterhouseCoopers issued a report projecting that employers’ healthcare costs will jump 9 percent in 2011. The authors predict that employers next year will shift more costs onto workers, hiking deductibles and replacing co-pays with co-insurance policies.

The White House was quick to push back against the report, pointing out that the employer surveys on which it was based were conducted before the Democrats’ reform bill was passed. Also, the analysts noted that the new reform law, much of which takes effect in 2014, had only a “minor” influence on next year’s cost trends. 

Asked about the report Monday, Sebelius conceded that many people will wonder why all the benefits of the health reform law don’t begin immediately. Still, she added, the survey “argues the case that we could absolutely not afford to do nothing.” 

“People are being absolutely priced out of the marketplace,” she said.

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We just got a 20% increase at my company. 

I though the justification for passing ZEROcare was that it would cut my costs? 

At least thats what the dolts and tampons on this site told me. 

I guess not.   ::)  ::)  ::)


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Re: ObamaCare = FAIL!
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2010, 01:06:22 PM »
i have been told that mine is just going to get dropped  so i am going just purchase it privatly
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Re: ObamaCare = FAIL!
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2010, 01:09:47 PM »
i have been told that mine is just going to get dropped  so i am going just purchase it privatly

Good luck with that, mine just increased by 20%. 


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Re: ObamaCare = FAIL!
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2010, 01:30:06 PM »
yea  i know but i refuse to go to a dr. office that resemble the local social security office in the middle of compton  i have spent too much of my life working and contributing like americans should to lower myself to a sesspool like that
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Re: ObamaCare = FAIL!
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2010, 11:39:24 PM »
I had to go to the doctor a few weeks ago here in Sydney, had a nasty upper respiratory infection.  Mind you, I'm a US citizen with no health coverage in Australia.  Doctors visit: $45, prescription of 2 different antibiotics for 10 days: 25, total $70.

If I had done that in the US it would have been 5 times that amount, at least.

Socialized medical works pretty well, it just won't ever in the US.

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Re: ObamaCare = FAIL!
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 01:12:12 AM »
I had to go to the doctor a few weeks ago here in Sydney, had a nasty upper respiratory infection.  Mind you, I'm a US citizen with no health coverage in Australia.  Doctors visit: $45, prescription of 2 different antibiotics for 10 days: 25, total $70.

If I had done that in the US it would have been 5 times that amount, at least.

Socialized medical works pretty well, it just won't ever in the US.
I saw the topic title, and even before opening it I was thinking the exact same thing.

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2010, 04:11:23 AM »
I saw the topic title, and even before opening it I was thinking the exact same thing.

We just got our renewal and it increaed 20%!  I was so pissed off.  I pay for it myself and this is money directly to the carrier out of my pocket.